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re: JFF Out of Control - UPDATE Sumlin says Player Punching Coach Not Normal

Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:26 am to
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:26 am to
Its just hilarious how unconditionally they love this guy.

I would not want my teams QB pushing one of our coaches.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:33 am to
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Its just hilarious how unconditionally they love this guy.


Wasn't Bear Bryant an alcoholic womanizer?

Cheating on your wife is worse than pushing a graduate assistant, don't you think?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:33 am to
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Its just hilarious how unconditionally they love this guy.

I would not want my teams QB pushing one of our coaches.


Oh please, y'all had two of your star players pushing each other in the middle of the national freaking championship game. And when the game was well in hand, at that! You really believe worse does not go on out of the spotlight?

You're naive, brah
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:33 am to
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You're naive, brah


Gumps be gumpin.
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:34 am to
Junction boys!
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:35 am to
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Gumps be gumpin.


Don't they be, tho?
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:38 am to
If you had have been paying attention, I already told you that plenty in my own fanbase do the same thing. Try to keep up.

What does bear bryant have to do with anything anyway? as if that has anything to do with conversation at hand.

As far as AJ pushing Jones, that is hardly comparable to shoving a coach because you just through three interception.
This post was edited on 3/25/13 at 11:40 am
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:40 am to
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If you had have been paying attention, I already told you that plenty in my own fanbase do the same thing. Try to keep up.

Also, I have never been able to find anything on Bear Bryant abusing his wife, as if that has anything to do with conversation at hand anyway.

As far as AJ pushing Jones, that is hardly comparable to shoving a coach because you just through three interception.



If you are making the statement that some sort of action should invalidate the love that a fan base shows a figure, I think it is perfectly relevant to try and figure out where exactly the line is for Bear Bryant among Alabama fans... Pushing a graduate assistant should suddenly invalidate Aggie's appreciation for Jonathan Paul Manziel? Are you serious?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:42 am to
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As far as AJ pushing Jones, that is hardly comparable to shoving a coach because you just through three interception.


It's exactly comparable. JFF pushed someone in his peer group (a GA).

And like I said, far worse goes on in every college football practice across the nation. Only reason this is noteworthy is because it's JFF.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:44 am to
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you are making the statement that some sort of action should invalidate the love that a fan base shows a figure, I think it is perfectly relevant to try and figure out where exactly the line is for Bear Bryant among Alabama fans...


You can love a figure and still be capable of calling a spade a spade when the time comes. You are blurring the picture here.

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Pushing a graduate assistant should suddenly invalidate Aggie's appreciation for Jonathan Paul Manziel? Are you serious?


Never implied this at all. Your words, not mine.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:46 am to
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Its just hilarious how unconditionally they love this guy.


Bear Bryant was an alcoholic who hit his wife and neglected his kids and you guys bow to a fricking statue of him outside your stadium every game.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:46 am to
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It's exactly comparable. JFF pushed someone in his peer group (a GA).

Are you serious with this shite? A coach is a superior, no matter if it is a GA.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:48 am to
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You can love a figure and still be capable of calling a spade a spade when the time comes. You are blurring the picture here.


You made the statement that you wouldn't want Johnny on your team. Not just that he should have been disciplined, but flat out not worthy enough to be on your team(Alabama). If the accusations about Bear Bryant were true, even if it was just one isolated incident, would you want to remove him completely from Alabama's legacy?
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:48 am to
Again, i dont see what bear bryant has to do with aggies recognizing that there is something wrong with JFF pushing a coach. You people are ridiculous.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:49 am to
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Never implied this at all. Your words, not mine.


You didn't imply, you explicitly said you wouldn't want him on your team. As if that action invalidates his worth to the team and program.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:49 am to
What the frick?
Where did I say that?

You are making shite up now.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:49 am to
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Again, i dont see what bear bryant has to do with aggies recognizing that there is something wrong with JFF pushing a coach. You people are ridiculous.


When did I say it was okay? You didn't just say it was wrong, you went much further.... that is the point I was making.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:50 am to
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Are you serious with this shite? A coach is a superior, no matter if it is a GA.


Settle down, bro. I compared it to AJ and Jones having it out.

My point is THIS shite HAPPENS ALL. THE. TIME. EVERYWHERE. People are hung up on the fact that it's JFF (omgz oh noes), and try to draw conclusions from that when it happens all the time.
Posted by FormMorm
Member since Jul 2012
389 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:50 am to
No, they aren't. One of my good buddies is a GA, and another a basketball team manager (wants to get into coaching)... They are at equal levels at the bottom of the totem pole. They don't get treated like coaches anymore than a group leader on a homework assignment is a teacher...
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:52 am to
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Again, i dont see what bear bryant has to do with aggies recognizing that there is something wrong with JFF pushing a coach.


GA, not a coach--there IS a difference.

And Aggies aren't condoning it, just recognizing that it happens all the time and is a non-issue just like it is everywhere else. You're pretty dense not to pick up on that. My reaction to this is the same as when I hear about practice/scrimmage scuffles around the country.

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You people are ridiculous.


What do you mean, "you people"?
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