Started By
Message
re: Is Texas High School Football Overrated?
Posted on 8/28/21 at 2:16 pm to phil4bama
Posted on 8/28/21 at 2:16 pm to phil4bama
quote:
Texas high school football has lost a lot of physicality since spread offenses trickled down and now dominate the state. It’s not that the kids are any less talented, it’s just that they spend waay too much time learning pass pro now and very little time learning how to pancake the guy in front of you. Run blocking like a road grader is a lost art among more and more high school linemen. Texas Longhorn football has paid the price for that neglect over the past 20 years. The OL kids aren’t tough anymore because they don’t know how to be tough. They are bigger, stronger, and faster but can’t move the pile when they need it. It’s a shame.
Well said. You nailed it.
0
Posted on 8/28/21 at 3:19 pm to ClemsonMatt
Cali is woofing hard about Mater Dei beating Duncanville TX down 45-3 last night...ok
Heisman Trophies last 10 yrs:
TX-4 CA-ZERO
K.Murray - '18
B.Mayfield - '17
RGIII - '11
J.Manziel - '12*
*In the SEC
CA - No trophies
CA HSFB products not on TX level in the 2000s
'05 Natty in their backyard
'19 JHurts & OU beat down UCLA in their backyard
No, TXHSFB is not overrated
Heisman Trophies last 10 yrs:
TX-4 CA-ZERO
K.Murray - '18
B.Mayfield - '17
RGIII - '11
J.Manziel - '12*
*In the SEC
CA - No trophies
CA HSFB products not on TX level in the 2000s
'05 Natty in their backyard
'19 JHurts & OU beat down UCLA in their backyard
No, TXHSFB is not overrated
Posted on 8/28/21 at 3:42 pm to Jumbo Swisher
quote:
No, TXHSFB is not overrated
Then why do the Texas Longhorns suck at football?
Posted on 8/28/21 at 3:50 pm to ClemsonMatt
quote:
Then why do the Texas Longhorns suck at football?
Shhhh. We all like it when they suck at football. Don't give them any ideas.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 3:52 pm to ClemsonMatt
I really dgaf, but none of them Heisman winners played for TU...start there
Posted on 8/28/21 at 4:01 pm to ClemsonMatt
Texas has more national championships than Clemson and South Carolina combined.
You must be a little kid?
You must be a little kid?
Posted on 8/28/21 at 4:05 pm to Sooner1984
Think about TXHSFB like this...
Imagine UCF/USF/FIU/FAU players winning Heisman Trophies and NFL MVP awards...That's always happened in TX.
Imagine UCF/USF/FIU/FAU players winning Heisman Trophies and NFL MVP awards...That's always happened in TX.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 5:05 pm to ClemsonMatt
quote:
Then why do the Texas Longhorns suck at football?
You might be just having fun but if serious, what does UT sucking have to do with Texas HS sports? FSU has sucked monkey nuts but that has nothing to do with Florida HS sports does it?
Posted on 8/28/21 at 5:11 pm to Jumbo Swisher
Imagine the most populous state outside of California having the most members of the NFL HOF.
You realize that Texas has more death row/excuted inmates since 1976 too, right?
What's amazing is how shitty college football was in the state of Florida in the 1970s and 1980s (Miami almost dropped their football program in the 70s, FSU being a girl's school) until Schnellenberger changed things. Imagine had he come to Miami in 1966 and integrated Miami instead of going to coach in the NFL. Those titles Texas won in 1969 & 70 might have been in South Florida instead.
You realize that Texas has more death row/excuted inmates since 1976 too, right?
What's amazing is how shitty college football was in the state of Florida in the 1970s and 1980s (Miami almost dropped their football program in the 70s, FSU being a girl's school) until Schnellenberger changed things. Imagine had he come to Miami in 1966 and integrated Miami instead of going to coach in the NFL. Those titles Texas won in 1969 & 70 might have been in South Florida instead.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 5:29 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
The by-product of prison & gun culture in an outlaw state, I guess. I find that it's easier for me to buy guns legally here in FL than it is back in TX tho...
Posted on 8/28/21 at 5:40 pm to Jumbo Swisher
quote:
The by-product of prison & gun culture
No. As population goes, so does inmate population.
Saying Texas has more inmates because of gun/prison culture is like saying they have more NFL HOFers because they have the best High School football.
LINK
Posted on 8/28/21 at 5:41 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
You might say the same about TX. If TCU/TTU/BAY/SMU/UH didn't exist + a damn good coach - there may be an extra natty or two in the state of TX...
Posted on 8/28/21 at 6:05 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
Ok, so big states have big prison populations. Great. What's that got to do with LT being a HOFer or Mahomes being an NFLMVP?
You're saying that they're automatically supposed to do those things just because TX is a big state? They play good ball in TX at the HS level...
In the 2020 NFL Draft 7 of the first 45 players were from Houston alone. 15%. They went that high because TX produces good ball players...PERIOD
That's not overrated or because of size alone..
You're saying that they're automatically supposed to do those things just because TX is a big state? They play good ball in TX at the HS level...
In the 2020 NFL Draft 7 of the first 45 players were from Houston alone. 15%. They went that high because TX produces good ball players...PERIOD
That's not overrated or because of size alone..
Posted on 8/28/21 at 6:17 pm to Jumbo Swisher
quote:
That's not overrated or because of size alone
It is though.
If 1 player in a million makes the NFL, Texas is always gonna have more players than any other state where football is king. It is numbers.
It's the same fricking reason they have more inamtes. More people, more inmates.
I bet they have more people that drive too.
They have more fricking people.
It really is that simple.
Why do they have more people drafted from Houston than say Odessa? Football is king in both places. Why is Houston that much better or do they just have more players to choose from?
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 6:29 pm to ClemsonMatt
quote:
Why would those kids not want to go to the flagship university that has all the money?
Why would the top recruits from a football crazy state not want to stay in that state in general?
I always hear this, "Texas has all the money." You do realize it has been illegal to pay players for years now right? Texas has a boatload of money in a state fund, but as far as sports go, they can only use it to build/ improve stadiums and facilities. That doesn't give them any advantage over other rich schools that have nice stadiums and facilities setting in recruiting hotbeds...
No matter what Aggie and OU fans tell you, Texas Boosters have not played the bag game like other schools over the years. At least not to the same extent as other schools. It is pretty evident they haven't because they do not have the network in place to get their NIL program off the ground and running. They had to hire an outside agency to start it up...If they had a big Booster / Bag man network in place already, NIL would not be the pain in the arse for them to set up that it has become..They are way behind other big schools at this point that already have million dollar contracts for players..
Lastly, there are some people in the admin offices at Texas that don't want it to become a football factory and would rather play school...Liberal types that want equality for women's sports, and they do everything they can to keep Texas from becoming a Football factory..
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 6:45 pm to AZHorn
quote:
I always hear this, "Texas has all the money." You do realize it has been illegal to pay players for years now right? Texas has a boatload of money in a state fund, but as far as sports go, they can only use it to build/ improve stadiums and facilities. That doesn't give them any advantage over other rich schools that have nice stadiums and facilities setting in recruiting hotbeds...
No matter what Aggie and OU fans tell you, Texas Boosters have not played the bag game like other schools over the years. At least not to the same extent as other schools. It is pretty evident they haven't because they do not have the network in place to get their NIL program off the ground and running. They had to hire an outside agency to start it up...If they had a big Booster / Bag man network in place already, NIL would not be the pain in the arse for them to set up that it has become..They are way behind other big schools at this point that already have million dollar contracts for players..
Lastly, there are some people in the admin offices at Texas that don't want it to become a football factory and would rather play school...Liberal types that want equality for women's sports, and they do everything they can to keep Texas from becoming a Football factory..
Cool
Hook’em
Posted on 8/28/21 at 8:03 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
Ok so let's look at California. Huge state, nice players. Yet, there's never been an in-state player from Fresno St, SJSU, SDSU or USD, to ever win sh!t. Why? Because quantity doesn't always mean quality.
No FL guy from USF/UCF/FAU/FIU is winning sh!t anytime soon either...same reason
Yet, Baylor/SMU/TCU/TTU have produced some real NFL legends...Why?
Because of the FOOTBALL CULTURE in TX...Size alone ain't the reason. And I've never said that TXHSFB is the best, once...It's far from overrated tho.
No FL guy from USF/UCF/FAU/FIU is winning sh!t anytime soon either...same reason
Yet, Baylor/SMU/TCU/TTU have produced some real NFL legends...Why?
Because of the FOOTBALL CULTURE in TX...Size alone ain't the reason. And I've never said that TXHSFB is the best, once...It's far from overrated tho.
This post was edited on 8/29/21 at 10:30 am
Posted on 8/28/21 at 8:11 pm to ClemsonMatt
I’ll take a 3 star from Louisiana or Florida any day over a Texas 3 star
Posted on 8/28/21 at 8:29 pm to Porcine Human
Good. Mahomes and LT were 3-stars. You should really cherish the table scraps that the state of TX leaves for you baws tho...
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 8:44 pm
Page 6 of 6
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News