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Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:05 am to cas4t
I’ll just donate $100 to charity if you want instead of making some open ended bet that hangs out for 4 or 5 years. 
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:06 am to ibldprplgld
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How often does a school guarantee a coach $75M with no buyout if he leaves?
I've said this several times, but who the heck cares how much he makes? $75 mil is nothing to a school that brings in over $200m mil a year in athletic revenue. What is salary is makes no difference to me.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:07 am to ibldprplgld
Here we go again with the obsession over what a head coach makes. I don’t really understand it.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:07 am to BoerneAg
How often does a school give 75M guaranteed to a coach who went 7-6 in his final season at his previous program?
lots of ways to spin thsi
it's not your money, so I get it. Who cares.
The point in my post is that Shane clearly doesn't know what market value means in a business sense, and clearly has no recollection of recent and current contracts LSU has given to coaches.
lots of ways to spin thsi
it's not your money, so I get it. Who cares.
The point in my post is that Shane clearly doesn't know what market value means in a business sense, and clearly has no recollection of recent and current contracts LSU has given to coaches.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:08 am to cas4t
I absolutely do, but I don’t understand why your fans are obsessed with the notion of paying a coach that and not a dollar more when it has zero bearing on you or your life.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:09 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I don’t really understand it.
With respect, you obviously don't understand a lot judging from this thread.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:10 am to ibldprplgld
You continue to throw out these insults then play right into the hands of the stereotype I presented in the OP. It’s quite amusing
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:11 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I absolutely do
Maybe now, but throughout this thread it has been quite apparent your definition of market value was off base.
Hint: market value is not a bad thing. It means you're paying someone what they are worth, period.
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but I don’t understand why your fans are obsessed with the notion of paying a coach that and not a dollar more when it has zero bearing on you or your life.
75M guaranteed was WAY above market value, so there's that. I get it it, it's not your money, so who cares. We are simply pointing out that LSU doesn't have to hand out these ludicrous contracts in order to win. There is definitive proof of this, particularly when you compare LSU to A&M.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 9:12 am
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:14 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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but I don’t understand why your fans are obsessed with the notion of paying a coach that and not a dollar more when it has zero bearing on you or your life.
also, LSU has certainly overpaid. Miles' last contract was the definition of overpaid. Just not as overpaid as, say, Fisher.
and you continue to ignore my point related to LSU having the highest paid staff and coordinator. That directly negates every point you've made.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 9:16 am
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:15 am to cas4t
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75M guaranteed was WAY above market value
Who determines what market value is to get a championship winning coach to leave their school?
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:15 am to cas4t
Jimbo was going to be hired as the LSU Head Coach until the whole Les Miles debacle happened during the A&M game. I would promise you that Jimbo's contract at LSU wouldn't of been 75 million guaranteed.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:19 am to cas4t
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Maybe now, but throughout this thread it has been quite apparent your definition of market value was off base. Hint: market value is not a bad thing. It means you're paying someone what they are worth, period.
It all depends on what your priorities are which was the point of the post. LSU obviously isn’t lacking for money and can afford to go over market value to get someone they really want (which was what A&M did with Fisher). If your priority is running your AD like a pure business then sure.
But I think you’re going to be locked into hiring a certain type of coach when you have to go shopping, because the top guys are not just readily available and aren’t moving without a significant raise that could easily be deemed over market value.
I think it also puts you in jeopardy of losing a coach like Wade since there are programs up the food chain from LSU who may be willing to throw money to make him available.
I said all this in my first post and throughout this thread and it shouldn’t be difficult to understand. If LSU was willing to offer above “market value” you could easily have Tom Herman as coach right now
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 9:20 am
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:20 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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You continue to throw out these insults then play right into the hands of the stereotype I presented in the OP. It’s quite amusing
I didn't insult you once, let alone multiple times. You said you don't understand and I agreed with you based off posts you have made in this very thread. You may be offended, but it wasn't an insult.
My advice is to drop the subject, or keep coming back and showing how much you don't understand.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:20 am to cas4t
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and you continue to ignore my point related to LSU having the highest paid staff
Are you including support staff and analyst? I know UGA spends about $5.7 million on support and analyst and Bama spends at least that much.This is beyond the 10 man staff budget.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 9:21 am
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:22 am to BoerneAg
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Who determines what market value is to get a championship winning coach to leave their school?
Apparently A&M. But I don't believe you just set the standard, unless Fisher gets a title in the next, say, 3 seasons. Other programs aren't going to just shell out fully guaranteed deals to anyone not named Saban or Dabo. And rest assured, Fisher is a damn good coach. But he is not on their level. Not even close.
I'd be willing to wager if Dabo goes to Bama after Saban retires that he doesn't even get a fully guaranteed deal.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:23 am to RD Dawg
LSU currently pays $6.4M for its coaches, HC and analysts not included in that number.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:24 am to RD Dawg
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Are you including support staff and analyst? I know UGA spends about $5.7 million on support and analyst and Bama spends at least that much.This is beyond the 10 man staff budget.
I'm referring to the Miles years. Recent history, was my point. LSU currently doesn't have the highest paid staff. But Aranda is the highest paid coordinator. Which alone negates Shane's point.
You can't have the highest paid coordinator and be considered a "value athletic department".
If/when Orgeron is fired this will be a really fun thread to revisit.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:27 am to ibldprplgld
Jesus christ, one google search, Shane!
Highest paid staff (assistants)
December 2018
Highest paid staff (assistants)
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Top 10 assistant salary pools
1. Ohio State: $7,383,938
2. Clemson: $6,825,000
3. Texas A&M: $6,789,640
4. Auburn: $6,555,600
5. LSU: $6,470,000
6. Georgia: $6,420,000
7. Alabama: $6,123,723
8. Texas: $5,955,000
9. Michigan: $5,875,000
10. Florida State: $5,715,000
December 2018
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 9:29 am
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:28 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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If LSU was willing to offer above “market value” you could easily have Tom Herman as coach right now
The reason that Herman isn't at LSU is more than just paying more.
The way I understand it Alleva had a deal in place for Herman to be the coach at LSU. Texas boosters leaked the story to pressure their administration. When Herman went to Alleva and said hold on I want to talk to another university about their opening Alleva said you know what I have a guy that I know wants to be at LSU (Coach O).
I don't really have a problem with how Alleva handled this situation.
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