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re: Is LSU willing to sacrifice it’s status as “best value athletic department?”

Posted on 4/22/19 at 7:40 pm to
Posted by sardog12
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
1177 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 7:40 pm to
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So you don’t think outbidding other schools to attract top coaches will be an issue for LSU? Because this contradicts other LSU fans in this thread


No to both.
Posted by KennesawTiger
Your's mom's house
Member since Dec 2006
7647 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 7:43 pm to
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The cause is a university president who has political aspirations and cares about the optics of spending big money on head coaching hires.

The effect is LSU fans worked out some rationale for these political consequences.



The cause is Texas A&M being gay AF.

The effect is Jimbo going somewhere else(maybe LSU) and screwing over Aggy just because he can.

Time will tell.
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 7:49 pm
Posted by sardog12
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
1177 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 7:47 pm to
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You said a few pages ago that fair market value is the priority in finding a coach


Actually he never said anything like that but congratulations on showing your desperation of making an argument by rewording what was actually said.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
26136 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 8:11 pm to
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Never said you couldn’t, it’s whether you want to and your admin/donors feel comfortable doing it.



LSU has paid premiums for coaches before. What we haven't done is grossly overpay like A&M did. Again, sometimes fair market value is paying a premium.

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You said a few pages ago that fair market value is the priority in finding a coach

I said no such thing, nor would I.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26593 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 9:47 pm to
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Ya you definitely don’t seem triggered

Good one

I've enjoyed your 5 pages of melting as you slowly realize LSU has plenty of money to play with
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 12:43 am to
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They are proud of Orgeron making a bottom half SEC salary while still winning 9 games

And y’all are proud of Jimbo getting paid more than anyone in the country while still winning 8 games. Weak attempt at shitting on LSU. Woodward is ours and your only chance at climbing out of athletic irrelevancy is gone
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
48408 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 1:45 am to
When their donors die they will be poor too
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27836 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 2:18 am to
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90% of the funds don't come from the fan, it's from big money donors


Are you talking athletic Dept revenues? The vast majority of revenues come TV/Bowl revenues plus ticket revenues in CFB and some in basketball.

No P5 school in the country comes close to 90% of their revenues from "big money donors".
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27836 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 2:34 am to
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The fact that the LSU Athletic Dept., one of the few that turns a profit,


Every athletic dept in the SEC not named Missouri and perhaps Vandy turns a profit.

It's really not that hard to do with amount of TV/bowl money that flows into the conference.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 2:57 am
Posted by houstonag
Member since Jun 2013
160 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 3:11 am to
Y’all got trolled ??
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14651 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 7:00 am to
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Every athletic dept in the SEC not named Missouri and perhaps Vandy turns a profit.


Yep Mizzou is the only SEC athletic department that spends more money that it takes in. In 2017-2018 fiscal year Mizzou brought in 97 million and spent 102 million, this includes 1 million from that state. Vandy never releases their finances.

Another interesting fact of the 13 SEC schools that report their finances 7 of them do not take any tax money to operate. Even the ones that do take 4 million or less.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71473 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 7:02 am to
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In Miles’ final few seasons LSU had the highest paid staff in the country. Not the SEC. In all of college football. Dave Aranda is, I believe, still the highest paid DC if not the highest paid coordinator. Maybe someone can fact check that. Point being is that LSU spends money on athletics.


Note that OP chose not to respond to this post

Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
26136 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:10 am to
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Note that OP chose not to respond to this post



He stopped responding because he wasn't making sense, and it was clear he was just trying to shite on LSU.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62205 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:21 am to
I stopped responding because I was assured LSU has great coaches across the board that are all paid fairly yet clamored for changes in their AD despite having an absolutely ideal coaching setup in every sport as described by your fans.

You also will only apparently pay market value but will still attract all the top coaches in the country if you need to make changes (which of course you don’t)

Not sure why I was expecting realistic responses but continue to discuss amongst yourselves
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 8:22 am
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
26136 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:33 am to
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I stopped responding because I was assured LSU has great coaches across the board that are all paid fairly yet clamored for changes in their AD despite having an absolutely ideal coaching setup in every sport as described by your fans.



...and you realize the AD's role and responsibility goes far beyond just coaches, right?

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You also will only apparently pay market value but will still attract all the top coaches in the country


We've been doing it for decades while winning multiple national and SEC titles across the board. We'll spend the money when necessary, but I don't want it to ever be a contract like Jimbo's. You're the only one who seems perturbed by that.

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Not sure why I was expecting realistic responses but continue to discuss amongst yourselves



You've gotten realistic responses from multiple posters; you just didn't like the answers to your thinly veiled smear attempt.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62205 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:52 am to
If you’re happy with the status quo in your AD then trust me, I am the opposite of perturbed.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71473 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:55 am to
I don’t think you understand what market value means

It means paying what someone or something is worth at the time. Your idea that you have to overpay to get a great coach is absurd and very aggy of you. No one else is doing this. They are giving raises to current coaches post success at their respective program

You’re off base dude and clearly displeased with recent moves by LSU

Listen, if O is let go, Woodward will find and pay a top notch coach top notch money. LSU has a history of doing this. Orgeron is an anomaly. Idk what to tell you. We have the highest paid coordinator in the country and for many years had the highest paid staff

I’m sorry about Woodward
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 8:57 am
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14651 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:59 am to
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ShaneTheLegLechler


You continue to embarrass yourself in this thread.

Yes Alleva actually has hired some good coaches. However, his PR skills are extremely lacking and his fund raising was non existent.

ETA: also Woodward was available so I don’t really care who the AD was. You move that AD to hire Woodward.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 9:00 am
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71473 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:00 am to
I will bet you $100 to charity that if O is let go we end up making a HC a top 5 highest paid HC in the country

Deal?
Posted by BoerneAg
Hill Country, God's Country
Member since Apr 2019
2329 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:01 am to
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Your idea that you have to overpay to get a great coach is absurd and very aggy of you. No one else is doing this.


How often does a national championship winning coach leave that school to take a job at another University? I'm good with calling this 'very aggy'.
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