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re: Is JFF the most exciting player ever?
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:28 pm to Big_Sur
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:28 pm to Big_Sur
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Sumlin also isn't mad when JFF acts like a whiny 12 yr old bitch. No control.
There's literally one game, the first of the year, to which you can apply this description to JFF's conduct.
Sumlin benched him.
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Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:28 pm to DWag215
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Inherent in JFF's greatness is his propensity to take risks. They're necessarily intertwined. You can't have his production without the occasional bone-headed play. It's just who he is.
It's more apparent this year because he has no defense. He has no choice but to go for it each drive.
With his mobility there shouldn't be risks. 2010 Auburn didn't have a great D you didn't see Cam take unnecessary risks. At this point Manziel is just playing QB badly. INT's are on him.
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:28 pm to Libertyabides71
jesus you are dense
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:29 pm to Libertyabides71
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When you get to double digits picks with any QB in any system you should start discussing his backup not how dynamic he is much less what awards he should win.
Now I know you're trolling.
Your opinion is yours, and you're not looking to do anything but argue.
Think I'll just agree to disagree.
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:29 pm to Big_Sur
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Did you call the media impartial? How old are you?
Impartial in the sense that they, collectively speaking, don't identify with TAMU or another team.
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:31 pm to DWag215
Your "problems" have as much to do with Manziel and your offense as it does your defense. If you guys exhibited more balance (you lined under center, killed some clock, handed off to a RB) you could rest your defense. You guys have Air Raid/Big 12 problems.
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:31 pm to DWag215
Quote from the announcer yesterday (paraphrasing):
'Some NFL teams can't wait for the chance to draft him'
'Some NFL teams can't wait for a different NFL team to draft him.'
'Some NFL teams can't wait for the chance to draft him'
'Some NFL teams can't wait for a different NFL team to draft him.'
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:32 pm to Libertyabides71
We've run the ball 7 more times than thrown FWIW
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:34 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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We've run the ball 7 more times than thrown FWIW
with Manziel's scrambles that is a definite sign you guys aren't balanced. With as much as he scrambles that means you are likely 70/30 called passes to run plays.
This post was edited on 11/10/13 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:35 pm to Libertyabides71
So runs by the QB don't count?
I'm eliminating all of TJ Yeldon's runs from Bama's stats. Now you throw the ball more than you run it and you aren't balanced. So there.
I'm eliminating all of TJ Yeldon's runs from Bama's stats. Now you throw the ball more than you run it and you aren't balanced. So there.
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:37 pm to Libertyabides71
My God, man. It's hard to begin explaining how wrong you are.
JFF has made a conscious effort to run less. He's done this in an attempt to play more within the offense--an attribute you implied earlier is important. He's also done this to avoid injury,, which actually speaks directly to his efforts in becoming a less "risky" QB.
TAMU's D makes 201 Auburn's look like the '85 Bears.
And how can you categorically describe JFF's risks as "unnecessary"?
For every turnover he's had, he's scored over three TDs. If you accept that risk-taking is a necessary part of his game, he seems to be quite calculated given his production.
He leads the SEC, who boasts the best collection of QBs in its history, in:
Yards
TDs
completion %
QBR
YPC
And every other meaningful statistic.
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With his mobility there shouldn't be risks.
JFF has made a conscious effort to run less. He's done this in an attempt to play more within the offense--an attribute you implied earlier is important. He's also done this to avoid injury,, which actually speaks directly to his efforts in becoming a less "risky" QB.
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2010 Auburn didn't have a great D you didn't see Cam take unnecessary risks.
TAMU's D makes 201 Auburn's look like the '85 Bears.
And how can you categorically describe JFF's risks as "unnecessary"?
For every turnover he's had, he's scored over three TDs. If you accept that risk-taking is a necessary part of his game, he seems to be quite calculated given his production.
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At this point Manziel is just playing QB badly. INT's are on him.
He leads the SEC, who boasts the best collection of QBs in its history, in:
Yards
TDs
completion %
QBR
YPC
And every other meaningful statistic.
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:37 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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So runs by the QB don't count?
I'm eliminating all of TJ Yeldon's runs from Bama's stats. Now you throw the ball more than you run it and you aren't balanced. So there.
You guys are really proving you don't know much about football.
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:38 pm to Libertyabides71
Ya I know. I never realized runs by the QB don't count. You should probably alert the scorekeepers.
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:39 pm to DWag215
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And every other meaningful statistic.
But wins and ball security stuff not effected by him playing in the Air Raid. We used to call Air Raid guys system QBs. Those guys rarely threw double digit INT's. Hell Case Keenum didn't do that for Sumlin at little ole Houston and I beat that D was 85 bears level as well.
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:40 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Ya I know. I never realized runs by the QB don't count. You should probably alert the scorekeepers.
Who said they didn't count? But scrambles off of passes are still called passes in the huddle. So that effects your called run/pass balance.
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:41 pm to Libertyabides71
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Hell Case Keenum didn't do that for Sumlin at little ole Houston
He threw double digit INTs 3 of his 4 seasons as a starter at UH you fricktard
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:41 pm to Libertyabides71
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Your "problems" have as much to do with Manziel and your offense as it does your defense.
The offense has scored 40 or more points in something like 14 consecutive games--the most since 1980.
It's not a perfect offense, sure. But when you score like we do, there's no conceivable way a halfway intelligent person could believe the offense shares as much blame as the defense.
You're faulting JFF and the offense for carrying this team 99 yards instead of 100. You're retarded.
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If you guys exhibited more balance (you lined under center, killed some clock, handed off to a RB) you could rest your defense.
We do what we need to get first downs and TDs. If running the ball more contributed to that goal, we'd do it.
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:42 pm to Libertyabides71
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Who said they didn't count? But scrambles off of passes are still called passes in the huddle
We don't huddle. Every play is called at the line and the calls are based off what the defense is showing. They typically have 3 options. You're an idiot and don't understand how our offense works.
This post was edited on 11/10/13 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:43 pm to DWag215
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The offense has scored 40 or more points in something like 14 consecutive games--the most since 1980.
It's not a perfect offense, sure. But when you score like we do, there's no conceivable way a halfway intelligent person could believe the offense shares as much blame as the defense.
You're faulting JFF and the offense for carrying this team 99 yards instead of 100. You're retarded.
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If you guys exhibited more balance (you lined under center, killed some clock, handed off to a RB) you could rest your defense.
We do what we need to get first downs and TDs. If running the ball more contributed to that goal, we'd do it.
No I'm faulting y'all for being just an Air Raid team with an above average QB and thinking you are mid 2000's USC.
Posted on 11/10/13 at 5:44 pm to Libertyabides71
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But wins and ball security stuff not effected by him playing in the Air Raid.
JFF scores more TDs per INT than any other SEC QB with more than 20 TDs.
We've lost because of our putrid D.
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