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re: Is it LSU's turn on the rotation to win the BCSCG?
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:35 am to WaveHog
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:35 am to WaveHog
I didn't say I think you're going to get worse, just that I don't see where the optimism is coming from.
Ok, and? Close to being top half isn't top half now is it?
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also, Arkasnas was 0.3 ppg from being "top half".
Ok, and? Close to being top half isn't top half now is it?
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Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:37 am to Draconian Sanctions
Since Petrino has been at Arkansas, we've improved each year, on offense and defense. Why would this change? We no longer have Nutt, even though he did perform well against LSU. In '08, we had the weakest team I can remember, talent-wise, and Petrino still squeezed out 5 wins. I'm thinking we might have even won our last regular season game, even though we didn't go to a bowl. That must really suck for teams that lost to us that year, especially when they were so much better. I'm thinking Auburn was so upset about losing that they hired Chiz.
This post was edited on 3/1/11 at 9:43 am
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:38 am to Draconian Sanctions
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I didn't say I think you're going to get worse, just that I don't see where the optimism is coming from.
and i was saying where the optimism is coming from. there's no reason to think we'll get worse. there is reason to think we'll get better.
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Ok, and? Close to being top half isn't top half now is it?
right, just pointing out how close we were to the magical "top half" designation, since that seems to be important to people. And there's reason to think we'll improve, so top half next year should be expected.
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:41 am to Porky
quote:Ever heard of a peak? Same reason that a beginning golfer might shave 5 shots off his score with a solid week of practice. But he ain't going to be shooting in the 60s with just a few more weeks of practice.
Since Petrino has been at Arkansas, we've improved each year, on offense and defense. Why would this change?
quote:In '08, it is highly debatable that we were better than you.
especially when they were so much better
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:42 am to Draconian Sanctions
Crap, you're right. Point still stands, though.
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:43 am to WaveHog
quote:I tend to agree - I don't expect the defense to get worse. I would just be cautious on the optimism as I don't see a lot of areas for improvement given who is returning, who was recruited, and who is coaching them.
and i was saying where the optimism is coming from. there's no reason to think we'll get worse. there is reason to think we'll get better.
Again, I expect y'all to be right in the middle of the pack on D, and in the top half on O, so it should be a pretty good year.
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:45 am to NaturalBeam
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In '08, it is highly debatable that we were better than you.
Our '08 team was the weakest team (relatively) we've had in 50 years. I would hope LSU was better. That's coaching. Wait...did we win?
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:46 am to SugarHog
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Arkansas WILL win one by 2015
nice. giving ya'll 5 yrs to win one. that shows lots of confidence. it's like saying "i don't know if we have the team to do it, but by the time 5 yrs goes by we will". our next 5 recruiting classes will be great.
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:46 am to Porky
Probably as it feels like we lost to everyone, I've tried to block '08 from my mind. Our weakest team of the decade.
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:48 am to LSU GrandDad
quote:It's a nice pipe dream, but it ain't gonna happen. Petrino is a good coach and might stand a chance in a different conference, but not this one. He's the 3rd or 4th best in the West alone. The West is too tough, Arky doesn't recruit well enough, and Petrino isn't elite enough to overcome those 2 factors.
nice. giving ya'll 5 yrs to win one. that shows lots of confidence
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:49 am to LSU GrandDad
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7 returning starters, no big losses of the ones gone (a few of the "starters" that left were splitting time, e.g. Broadway at CB, Crim at S, and should be easily replaced) Players now in the system for 4 full years Good D-Line that looks to get better Better depth than we've ever had on that side of the ball Lots of redshirt players there is reason to be optimistic. i'm not saying we'll be top of the SEC or even top-3, but i do expect improvement.
That's the smartest post I've ever read from a Hog fan. Shows he's paying attention and realistic. I think the Hogs will be tougher if TW turns out to be the man, I don't think they've shown that they're top 3 in the SEC YES but they're getting a lot closer.
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:53 am to NaturalBeam
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I would just be cautious on the optimism as I don't see a lot of areas for improvement given who is returning, who was recruited, and who is coaching them.
i think you're mistaking expecting improvement with expecting to rule the SEC. like i said, i don't expect to be a top-3 defense, but i do expect 4th or 5th in scoring/total.
Experience: we return a lot of starters, the defense will have a ton of Sr/Jr.
Recruiting: a lot of younger guys got playing time and look to improve (Chris Smith, Eric Bennett, Byran Jones all got major PT as Freshmen last yr).
Coaching: as mentioned, we've improved every year. also, Steve Caldwell will be in his second second season, and he's a strong D coach. i expect him to have an impact on our running defense.
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:56 am to mwade91383
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I think the Hogs will be tougher if TW turns out to be the man
If he doesn't pan out, we have still have Brandon Mitchell and Jacoby Walker. Mitchell's fast and can hurl a football. Walker's just damn good.
Posted on 3/1/11 at 9:59 am to WaveHog
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i think you're mistaking expecting improvement with expecting to rule the SEC. like i said, i don't expect to be a top-3 defense, but i do expect 4th or 5th in scoring/total.
Expecting a jump from 7th to 4th is a pretty huge jump and not based in any sort of reality. Is everyone else just going to stop playing defense? Arkansas will be 6th at best next year.
Posted on 3/1/11 at 10:01 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Arkansas will be 6th at best next year.
How will that help LSU?
Posted on 3/1/11 at 10:04 am to Porky
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How will that help LSU?
How will it hurt LSU?
Posted on 3/1/11 at 10:05 am to Porky
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How will that help LSU?
Who said anything about LSU?
Posted on 3/1/11 at 10:06 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Who said anything about LSU?
I asked the question. Do you think that will improve LSU's chances against us?
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How will it hurt LSU?
It shouldn't hurt, but hoping we're in the bottom half, defensively, won't help either.
This post was edited on 3/1/11 at 10:11 am
Posted on 3/1/11 at 10:13 am to Porky
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I asked the question. Do you think that will improve LSU's chances against us?
I have no idea. I'm sure that will be a tough game regardless.
Posted on 3/1/11 at 10:14 am to Draconian Sanctions
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I have no idea. I'm sure that will be a tough game regardless.
I'd be willing to bet it's close, late in the 4th.
This post was edited on 3/1/11 at 10:17 am
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