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Is Frank Martin the worst recruiter of all time?

Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:21 pm
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:21 pm
Likely the top 2 draft picks in the upcoming NBA Draft are from the state of South Carolina, Zion Williamson and Ja Morant

USCjr was very much in the race with Zion, but Frank Martin just couldn't close. When asked in a radio show how close South Carolina was to signing Zion, this was Martin's actual response:




Even worse was with Morant who was a 2* only by default, but actually chose Murray State OVER South Carolina. USCjr was Morant's home state team and he still turned them down for fricking Murray State



Better believe that a real recruiter like Pearl would have signed both of them and have USCjr as a title contender this year. And yes, Pearl can also scout low ranked, under recruited guys and coach them up; see Malik Dunbar and J'Von McCormick making big contributions for us this year.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 5:31 pm
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:24 pm to
Last time I checked Frank Martin has been to a final four and Bruce Pearl hasn't....

What exactly was your point again?
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51296 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:24 pm to
Um, he recruited a Final Four team.

/thread
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:25 pm to
I see you've missed the whole back story.

There's an "activist" in Columbia who gets to these guys, of his same race, and actively encourages them to go anywhere but Carolina. He's got a pretty damned good success rate.

Not sure wtf we did to piss him off, but he absolutely hates us.
Posted by sand mountainDvalues
Member since Oct 2018
8718 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:28 pm to
Lol gmafb
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26783 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

actively encourages them to go anywhere but Carolina. 
wise advice. Duke >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>usce
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

worsr


Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
6306 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:32 pm to
The team he recruited for this season was good enough to beat Aubrun's best ever hoops coach - Cliff Ellis
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

Last time I checked Frank Martin has been to a final four and Bruce Pearl hasn't....



And he's never going back either if he keeps this up. Might not even get better than an NIT invite from here out
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:34 pm to
quote:

The team he recruited for this season was good enough to beat Aubrun's best ever hoops coach - Cliff Ellis


Should I congratulate you first on being a moron, or beating a Coastal Carolina team with a losing record?
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 5:39 pm
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:38 pm to
I wish Lew would gyafb.
Posted by VAvolfan
Member since Feb 2010
2326 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:39 pm to
I’d go to Duke to over South Carolina for basketball too and that’s not a knock on Frank Martin.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26808 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:40 pm to
The correct answer is Seth Greenberg when he was at Virginia Tech. He failed to recruit Steph and Seth Curry, despite the fact their dad was an alum. Steph went to Davidson and Seth to Liberty (later to Duke).

That has to be the biggest recruiting failure in NCAA history.
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
21881 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:40 pm to
I forgot about that a-hole
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:42 pm to
Calm down young lady.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:44 pm to
As if.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:44 pm to
It's one thing to not offer a kid that doesn't look like he'll be a great prospect at the time, nobody else big was offering the Curry brothers either.


But to be the only P5 offer for an instate 2* and still lose out to Murray State, that really highlights a lack of recruiting skill.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26808 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:45 pm to
You would think after the Steph debacle, he would say “maybe I should recruit Seth”
Posted by Hair of the Dog
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
2205 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:53 pm to
Bruce Pearl lies.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15817 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 5:56 pm to
VOLS have been able to grab 5* CG Josiah James (#1 player in SC #15 nationally) and 4* C DJ Burns (#3 player in SC #108 nationally) out of South Carolina in the last few classes as well. Carolina has been cranking out some talent. I'm surprised Martin hasn't been able to capitalize more on it.
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