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re: Is Dan Mullen the top young head coach in America?
Posted on 7/13/10 at 9:54 am to Whereisomaha
Posted on 7/13/10 at 9:54 am to Whereisomaha
Im just saying that the Media sure seems to think a lot of Mullen and have spoken very highly of him going into year two.
This guy has Mullen ranked as the third best coach in the SEC behind Saban and Meyer
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This guy has Mullen ranked as the third best coach in the SEC behind Saban and Meyer
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 9:56 am to 601dawg
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Im just saying that the Media sure seems to think a lot of Mullen and have spoken very highly of him going into year two
as they did Snead, Croom, & Greg HardyPosted on 7/13/10 at 9:58 am to Whereisomaha
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Saban was 7-6 in his first year at Bama
Saban had already won a NC, everyone knew he was a good coach, dumbass. In Mullen's first year he had a losing season and people are ranking him 3rd best coach in the SEC after doing nothing but winning moral victories. FWIW I think Mullen will be a decent coach, not an elite one, but at UGA and LSU could win some SEC championships.
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:01 am to Whereisomaha
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it wasnt the same admiration, but it was similar. After his first season, ESPN had croom as one of the top up and coming coaches, just like they have mullin now
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Croom was 3-8 after his first season and finished last in the SEC-w. Nobody ever got really excited about Croom. He only delayed his firing by a year by making it to the Liberty Bowl in 2007.
Mullen is 100X's better of a coach and recruiter than Croom. He actually coaches. All Croom ever did was ride around on his golf cart and sleep at practice.
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:02 am to 601dawg
State would be singing a different tune if he had not beaten Ole Miss last year. 
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:02 am to Whereisomaha
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Saban had already won a NC, everyone knew he was a good coach, dumbass.
This seems unwarranted. Why the insult?
I, simply, think Mullen will be a very good HC. No big deal if you disagree.
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:06 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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State would be singing a different tune if he had not beaten Ole Miss last year.
this
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:07 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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This seems unwarranted. Why the insult? I, simply, think Mullen will be a very good HC. No big deal if you disagree.
Because Ole Miss fans are still in denial about losing the Egg Bowl last year, and also refuse to admit that Mullen is a good coach since he was only 5-7 last year. They dont know it but we were a couple of plays away from being 7-5 (Houston and LSU)
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State would be singing a different tune if he had not beaten Ole Miss last year.
The fact is that we won 41-27 and took two knees inside the 2 yard line to end the game.
That alone shows what type of Coach Dan Mullen is and what type of class he has.
This post was edited on 7/13/10 at 10:10 am
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:08 am to Whereisomaha
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This seems unwarranted. Why the insult?
just seemed a little crazy that you would compare sabans first year at bama to Mullen's first HC season at state
FWIW, I think he will be a decent coach, just not an elite coach. State should be very happy to have him because he will probably be the most talented coach they will ever have and should set them up for a decent long term coach
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:10 am to Whereisomaha
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just seemed a little crazy that you would compare sabans first year at bama to Mullen's first HC season at state
Fair...as far as it goes. However, I compared RECORDS...not INDIVIDUALS.
You uses record only as a basis (since there is no track record) I used record only (ignoring track record)
I did not, and would not, compare Saban and Mullen.
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:12 am to Whereisomaha
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Because Ole Miss fans are still in denial about losing the Egg Bowl last year, and also refuse to admit that Mullen is a good coach since he was only 5-7 last year. They dont know it but we were a couple of plays away from being 7-5 (Houston and LSU)
first off, yes im in denial about the egg bowl. shite hurt and hate losing to an inferior team, especially one who's your rival.
Secondly I've already said 10 times on this one thread that Mullen should be a good coach. Too early to tell, but he should be a good one, just not a great one (too early to tell about that as well)
Lastly, you loose a lot of respect when you spit out woulda shoulda coulda bull shite. Every team in the nation can say the exact same shite. What matters is the outcome of the score, not what it could have been. Yes you should have won the LSU game, too bad you didnt. The Houston game, while yall were in it, it was never yours to win.
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:13 am to Toddy
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Im just saying that the Media sure seems to think a lot of Mullen and have spoken very highly of him going into year two.
This guy has Mullen ranked as the third best coach in the SEC behind Saban and Meyer
You are not helping your arguement by linking a guy who calls him the third best in the SEC...No doubt he did very well last season with what he had...but to use a guy calling him the third best as an arguement is ludicrous...Mullen IMO will be a good HC...unfortunately he will make a name for himself at another school...
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State would be singing a different tune if he had not beaten Ole Miss last year.
But they did...so they aren't...
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Lastly, you loose a lot of respect when you spit out woulda shoulda coulda bull shite. Every team in the nation can say the exact same shite. What matters is the outcome of the score, not what it could have been. Yes you should have won the LSU game, too bad you didnt. The Houston game, while yall were in it, it was never yours to win.
I diagree...this shows to the character and direction of the team...when you come in a play a team that is more talented and supposedly better coached than yours and you play them to the wire and/or beat them there is nothing wrong with getting excited about the future....
This post was edited on 7/13/10 at 10:16 am
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:14 am to Whereisomaha
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I compared RECORDS...not INDIVIDUALS.
comparing Saban's first HC season ever to Mullen's would've made sense. Comparing his record at his 4th job after what he's already accomplished doesnt relate at all
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:15 am to Whereisomaha
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That alone shows what type of Coach Dan Mullen is and what type of class he has
eh, I guess, I think it proves how smart he is instead of his class, but could go either way I guess
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:17 am to Whereisomaha
quote:You mean like this?
Lastly, you loose a lot of respect when you spit out woulda shoulda coulda bull shite.
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State would be singing a different tune if he had not beaten Ole Miss last year.
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:18 am to Diamondawg
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You mean like this?
Exactly, I was waiting for that Even though his point was about how State puts an awful lot of salt into an entire season, future of their program, and views their coach off of this one game. But it is more theory than fact so
This post was edited on 7/13/10 at 10:21 am
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:19 am to Whereisomaha
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comparing Saban's first HC season ever to Mullen's would've made sense.
Not really. Different schools, different conferences, different talent levels, etc.
My point was simply that the record itself is of little use. In that regard, my use of Saban's is accurate. First year records are of little use in predicting future accomplishments.
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:25 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
In all serioiusness though. I am really optimistic as I have not seen this much excitement in Starkville for years. However, it way too early to tell. I think he is a bright young coach with a lot of upside. Unfortunately, he is coaching in the toughest division, top to bottom in the toughest conference in the world. He could be really good and put a really competitive product on the field but it still might not equate to wins - like in the 9 - 10 - 11 category. We are years behind the others in recruiting. Top 20 classes are nice. But when 3 of the other 5 teams in your division are are top 10, it's tough.
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:29 am to Diamondawg
If the top 3 in the West keep having classes in the top 10, State and OM keep having classes in the top 20 and Arky keeps recruiting the best 3* the world has ever seen, then somethings got to give. I could see the bottom teams in the west ruling the bottom 3 of the East every year and possibly the bottom 4 if Tennessee cant get back into the lords favor, poor guys
This post was edited on 7/13/10 at 10:30 am
Posted on 7/13/10 at 10:54 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Saban was 7-6 in his first year at Bama.
Yeah, but that wasn't his first year coaching, either. The guy already had a BCS title. Everyone knew he'd win at Bama.
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