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re: Is Dak even a top 15 QB?

Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:10 am to
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:10 am to

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Dallas doesn't have a SuperBowl quarterback now. They have Dak Prescott - at $34.5 million


They are going to have to pay at least that much to get a superbowl-winning QB.

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the Chargers have Justin Herbert for $7.25 million. Both won the same number of playoff games this year

He wouldn’t win a superbowl at Dallas, so they’d save some money but basically give up on delivering what their fanbase wants. That’s a loser mentality.

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Now - stop talking out of your arse.

That’s rich coming from a butthurt [apparent] Cowboys fan.

Cowboys fans just need to accept that their team isn’t going to be magically fixed by a QB. Their GM sucks and causes nonstop problems. Dak’s contract was a result of Jones thinking he was some sharp negotiator. Their coach sucks. Cowboys just suck as an organization. If it weren’t for Snyder’s mess of a franchise, Dallas would be the laughing stock of the entire league.
Posted by ScoggDog
SE Indiana
Member since Aug 2020
3623 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:11 am to
We're going to do this all day, aren't we ? Mississippi State fans defending Dak Prescott, all damn day.

So be it - it's an easy argument to win. I like winning. Especially when it's easy.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:14 am to
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Dallas COULD HAVE


This is the most Dallas statement ever.
Posted by ScoggDog
SE Indiana
Member since Aug 2020
3623 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:15 am to
He wouldn’t win a superbowl at Dallas, so they’d save some money but basically give up on delivering what their fanbase wants. That’s a loser mentality.

Dak won't be winning a SuperBowl at Dallas either. But I guess, according to you - it's sets the right tone to pay about $27 million more for a guy that won't do it, that's older, with a weaker arm, slower, smaller, and with a trashed ankle, rather than Justin Herbert. If that's a "winning mentality" - I'll try the losing mentality.

Prescott and Herbert won the same number of playoff games this year. Dallas simply paid an additional $27 million for the privilege. But only $16 million more than Tampa Bay will pay for Brady this year ... who, again, was available at the time that Dallas chose to retain Prescott.
Posted by ScoggDog
SE Indiana
Member since Aug 2020
3623 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:18 am to
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Cowboys fans just need to accept that their team isn’t going to be magically fixed by a QB. Their GM sucks and causes nonstop problems. Dak’s contract was a result of Jones thinking he was some sharp negotiator. Their coach sucks. Cowboys just suck as an organization. If it weren’t for Snyder’s mess of a franchise, Dallas would be the laughing stock of the entire league.


Which is it going to be, Plate ? Either Prescott is worth $34.5 million, or Dallas is run by idiots for paying that much.

It can't be both, Plate. You're doing that thing you do - again - where you can't keep track of your previous posts, and end up arguing with yourself.

Just stop. Seriously. Until you start taking notes, or whatever it is you need to do to stop forgetting what your original point is ... just stop. It'll be better for you, honestly.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:19 am to
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it's sets the right tone to pay about $27 million more for a guy that won't do it


That’s their own fault. They waited until they had no other options and had to pay. There’s a reason Dak’s agent pulled that payday off, and it’s because Dallas is run by fools.

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But only $16 million more than Tampa Bay will pay for Brady this year

Tampa Bay did what they needed to get Brady. Cowboys did not. Same story will happen over and over again.
Posted by LSU7096
Houston
Member since May 2004
2490 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:20 am to
Dak is good, but too much money spent on Elliot & Cooper. Cut the offensive "juggernaut" salaries of those two to shore up the defense
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 11:21 am
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48689 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:20 am to
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Personally I like the guy. How can you not?

What’s your email? I’ll send you the official PowerPoint presentation.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:21 am to
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Either Prescott is worth $34.5 million, or Dallas is run by idiots for paying that much.


It’s both. That’s how the market works, and it fricked Dallas. Whether he’s still worth it depends on if they can pick up a good replacement.
Posted by ScoggDog
SE Indiana
Member since Aug 2020
3623 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:22 am to
Plate - pick. What is your point ? That Dallas is bone dead stupid for paying $34.5 million for Prescott ? Or that Prescott is worth $34.5 million ?

You've spent three posts now that could have been shortened to "ScoggDog is right !!!". Prior to that, you wasted a few points defending Prescott. Which is it ?

Hell - let's keep it simple. Plate - can you find Mississippi on a map ? Do you know where you are right now ?
Posted by Allister Fiend
Member since Jan 2016
815 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:26 am to
Yesterday’s loss can’t be put solely at Dak’s feet. Those stupid penalties kept putting them in a hole. It throws timing off to have to constantly have to wait for the plays to develop when you’re third and long with a o line that sucks. To me the game was decided when Lambs 30 yard reception was taken away due to that dumbass Connor Williams hold. It forced a punting situation versus Dallas being down by one score at half. They score there Dallas wins but instead Dak once again is blamed. Zeke is done but unfortunately they can’t cut until next year.
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
1115 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:44 am to
Judging Dak on lots of games , not just yesterday, he is not the QB that can utilize the tools Dallas has, and will not get Dallas to SB , certainly not win it.....

May as well move on from Dak.........
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14094 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:46 am to
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We're going to do this all day, aren't we ? Mississippi State fans


You seem hurt by this in some way. Are you hurt?

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So be it - it's an easy argument to win. I like winning. Especially when it's easy.


Yeah...you just like the easy way of making an irrelevant argument, by avoiding the main issue.
Posted by ScoggDog
SE Indiana
Member since Aug 2020
3623 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:53 am to
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Yeah...you just like the easy way of making an irrelevant argument, by avoiding the main issue.


I framed the question accurately - we can argue all day about if Dak has the skills to be in the top half of QBs in the league. But when you look at how much he demands for those skills, it's a non-starter. You can either get Mahomes or Wilson for the same money, or an entire smorgasbord (that means a buffet) of comparable, and in some cases obviously better, QBs for less money.

So - let's do this. This is incredibly obvious. Mississippi State fans feel compelled to defend one of their own, no matter how impossible it is to do so. I will monitor this thread, all day, and continue to show how absurd that defense is.

If we're picking dream teams, based on talent AS WELL AS price - for next year - Dak Prescott is no where near the top third of starters in the league, and arguably not in the top half. He simply isn't good enough for the price tag he's paid.

And he doesn't get extra credit for being from Mississippi State.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14094 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 12:09 pm to
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You can either get Mahomes or Wilson for the same money, or an entire smorgasbord


With the prevailing culture of this organization and this OL? I like to see Mahomes give it a shot, but Wilson and the smorgasbord you speak of, you must be a long suffering fool.
Posted by ScoggDog
SE Indiana
Member since Aug 2020
3623 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 12:15 pm to
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With the prevailing culture of this organization and this OL? I like to see Mahomes give it a shot, but Wilson and the smorgasbord you speak of, you must be a long suffering fool.


Therein lies the problem - Dallas will have a tougher time making moves to get a better line, because they're pissing away almost $35 million a year on Dak Prescott.

So which is it, Mississippi State fans ? Is Dak Prescott worth $35 million ? Because to make that kind of money, you HAVE to be able to perform with less tools around you than - say - Tom Brady who plays for less than $20 million next year. Or is Dallas out of their minds to pay him that kind of money ?

I like it. Now the Starkville Apologists have turned from "Dak it worth it" to a combination of "Dallas should have never paid it" and "Nobody else would take the job".

Soon ... we'll get past Denial and Bargaining - and finally to Acceptance. Acceptance that Dak Prescott is a terrible QB, relative to the money he demanded.

Hail State.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14094 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 12:21 pm to
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Soon ... we'll get past Denial and Bargaining - and finally to Acceptance. Acceptance that Dak Prescott is a terrible QB, relative to the money he demanded.


Pitiful
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
9156 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 12:37 pm to
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Aaron Rogers wins Super Bowls if he had Daks’ weapons


not with Mike McCarthy as HC. its a one hit wonder which is why mccarthy was fired from green bay.
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