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re: Is Cam the best NFL player from the SEC

Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:39 am to
Posted by AUbagman
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:39 am to
Christ, this is getting old..

Cam is probably the most valuable for his team at this point, but yes, there are plenty of other former SEC players that are as talented at their position.
This post was edited on 12/16/15 at 10:40 am
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:39 am to
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4. Badger
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:41 am to
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Christ, this is getting old..


3 threads on the front page by Auburn fans discussing the greatness of Cam
Posted by AUbagman
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:50 am to
I can't tell if they're just trying to troll or if they're just grasping for some semblance of vicarious football fandom ego boost.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:55 am to
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I can't tell if they're just trying to troll or if they're just grasping for some semblance of vicarious football fandom ego boost.
AU is a mess and headed to a bowl game in the one place some swore they would never step foot in again. All some have at the moment is CAM.
This post was edited on 12/16/15 at 10:56 am
Posted by 14&Counting
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:56 am to
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I can't tell if they're just trying to troll or if they're just grasping for some semblance of vicarious football fandom ego boost.


Frankly there is not much else to discuss that is otherwise positive right now.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:57 am to
why does this surprise anyone? he was the best professional player in the SEC when he was in college too
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 11:03 am to
He has a legitimate case for DPOY year you fricking nerd.

Holy shite are yall terrible.
This post was edited on 12/16/15 at 11:05 am
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 11:15 am to
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Not talking about all time. But in the NFL today is there even close 2nd among the SEC guys to Cam?


QBs are the most important. Then pass rushers. Then pass protectors. Then pass catchers. Then DBs, RBs and linebackers. The first three get the biggest salaries and are what you really need to locking at. The market has a pretty good way of showing how is the best. A player's salary is more often than not going to be a pretty good indication.

Cam has been great this season, and with the nature of his position his value is as high as possible. He'll probably win MVP as well. But the strength of Carolina is their defense. Let's say there are about 5-10 QBs I'd rather have than Cam, but no linebackers I'd rather have than Keuchley. But. Linebacker isn't near as valuable as QB so while Cam isn't a top 5 player at his position, and Keuchley is... Cam is still the "better" player, IMO.

I like to think of it this way. If I had a giant fantasy draft of players just this year, what would I do? I can't take the best at every position, and I have to know that the team matters. So I like to think of it in terms of would I rather gave player A teamed with an average compliment or player B with an average compliment. Would I rather have Gronk to match a decent ground game or Adrian Peterson and a decent tight end. I'd take Gronk no question. Would I rather have Earl Thomas and a decent linebacker in front of him, or a Luke Kuechly and an average safety behind him? Not really sure that's tough. Would I rather have Dez Bryant and some average guy opposite opposite him or Richard Sherman and some average guy opposite him? Probably Dez because I love the Cowboys, but it's close.

As far as the SEC goes... Since pass rusher/pass protector are the only thing as valuable as a QB, those three things are the only things I can look at to decide who is better. Would I rather have Andrew Whitworth and a top 10-15 QB, or Cam Newton and a top 10-15 left tackle? I'd take Whitworth. But he's probably the only SEC tackle. After that, Greg Hardy is the only pass rusher. The SEC has a lot of great DTs in the NFL, but not as many DEs.

So as far as best NFL player from the SEC, I think he's definitely up there, but the concept of "no close second" is silly.
Posted by AUbagman
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Member since Jun 2014
10566 posts
Posted on 12/16/15 at 11:15 am to
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Frankly there is not much else to discuss that is otherwise positive right now.


Well, Marlon Davidson reaffirmed his commitment, so there's that I suppose.

After the JSU game, I knew it was time to just not get emotionally invested in the season. It was a smart move.
Posted by nc14
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 6:47 pm to
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He has a legitimate case for DPOY year you fricking nerd.


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