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re: Is Alabama's defense overrated?

Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:59 pm to
Posted by partsman103
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Posted on 11/2/13 at 10:59 pm to
Yes, very overrated.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:02 pm to
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Probably the best in the nation, if we're being honest.


possibly. We're definitely gonna miss them next year because I don't think theres a chance in hell they're coming back.

If you want a laugh go check out how much of our passing game those 2 are responsible for. Its an insane proportion. I mean obviously they're our best options and if they're open the ball should go to one of them. But a #3 pass catcher is almost non existent. The lack of spreading the ball has hurt Mett to some degree since he's gotten so comfortable with 3 and 80. All 3 of his picks at Ole Miss were forced throws to Beckham.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48086 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:03 pm to


Official sec site.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16196 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:03 pm to
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Nope. Georgia, the team you lost to gives up the most points.



Georgia's defense is just despicable. They actually have the jimmys and joes but somehow turn them into curley and moe's. Thank god that Richt is a really good guy.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:03 pm to
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If you want a laugh go check out how much of our passing game those 2 are responsible for.
I did. Your 3rd receiver has only about 6 catches. 1 and 2 are awesome.

--- edit ---- awesome
This post was edited on 11/2/13 at 11:05 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48086 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:05 pm to
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Aggies also have better receivers and


Wrong. A&M has one wr in the top 5 in rec , tds and yards.
Lsu has 2 wr in the top 4 in tds , yards and rec.

So no you aren't using my argument. My arguement is based on facts that aren't cherry picked. I'm using total yards , rec and tds. Not most tds yards and rec against sec teams on a Thursday.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48086 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:06 pm to
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Nope. Georgia, the team you lost to gives up the most points.


Total defense is the more accurate portrale of a defense.
Uga could fumble on their one yard line and then the other team score 7 points while only gaining a yard.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:07 pm to
Oh wait, I see now. You're using TOTAL defense. We're talking about WRs. TOTAL defense doesn't matter. Look at PASS defense, or PASS EFFICIENCY defense, maybe YARDS PER ATTEMPT defense, or PASS TD defense.
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:08 pm to
Could, but that's your opinion. I can choose to use scoring defense instead. And you lost to the number 8 and number 14 scoring defenses.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48086 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:08 pm to
The five best Wrs in the sec are
Evans, Cooper ( healthy), OBJr , Landry , and Matthews.
This post was edited on 11/2/13 at 11:09 pm
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:08 pm to
That's one thing I've noticed. Even a lot of catches are forced throws that good Safeties (come on down HaHa an LC) could have made plays on. But with a bye week maybe he'll fix that.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
70331 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:09 pm to
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Total defense is the more accurate portrale of a defense.



Georgia's defense is giving up nearly 400 yards and 34 points a game.

They suck.

Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:09 pm to
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The five best Wrs in the sec are
Evans, Cooper ( healthy), OBJr , Landry , and Matthews.


In that order, or...?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48086 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:12 pm to
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Oh wait, I see now. You're using TOTAL defense. We're talking about WRs. TOTAL defense doesn't matter. Look at PASS defense, or PASS EFFICIENCY defense, maybe YARDS PER ATTEMPT defense, or PASS TD defense.


What? You're dumb. A&M and Kentucky and Tenn rushing defense is so bad( the 3 worst rush defenses) that teams don't have to throw the ball and it boosts their pass defense. Someone that claims to know so much football you fail to know this.
Posted by tt54l32v
Member since Oct 2012
832 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:13 pm to
Just because lsu upset auburn does not make lsu better.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:13 pm to
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What? You're dumb. A&M and Kentucky and Tenn rushing defense is so bad( the 3 worst rush defenses) that teams don't have to throw the ball and it boosts their pass defense. Someone that claims to know so much football you fail to know this.



So, you're saying, when discussing passing and receiving, we should look at TOTAL defense over PASS defense?



Ok.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48086 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:14 pm to
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Georgia's defense is giving up nearly 400 yards and 34 points a game.


Florida and Miss st are 1 and 5. The highest ranked defense bama has faced is ole miss and Arkansas.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48086 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:14 pm to
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In that order, or...?


Just named them. I think Evans is clearly the best and you couldn't go wrong with the other 4.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102085 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:15 pm to
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That's one thing I've noticed. Even a lot of catches are forced throws that good Safeties (come on down HaHa an LC) could have made plays on. But with a bye week maybe he'll fix that.


Its a bit concerning. On one of Mett's touchdowns last week he threw to Beckham in double or triple coverage. Beckham bailed him out and took it for a TD. Pretty much everybody in the game thread agreed that in SEC play, that gets picked off. I'm hoping in the off week, they work on some plays to get other options involved in case Beckham and Landry are taken away. Cam Cameron's offenses usally involve the tight ends and running backs in the passing game which we've seen slight glimpses of. But nothing major.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48086 posts
Posted on 11/2/13 at 11:16 pm to
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Just because lsu upset auburn does not make lsu better.


Lsu was up 21 points before we even had to attempt a third down.
Auburn had 130 yards at half time. They never got closer than 14. Lsu is better than auburn.
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