re: I'm happy for Auburn!

I'm pulling against Auburn and I am not ashamed to admit it. Under any other scenario, I would pull for the SEC, but not this time.

If Auburn wins (which I am sure they will) and the title is vacated (which also appears very likely) the SEC will be labeled as cheats. All previous champs in this run (LSU, UF and Bama) will then be questioned by individuals across the nation (birds of a feather flock together). Obviously, I don't think UF, LSU or Bama cheated their way to victory, but that doesn't mean a ficticious asterisk will not be placed beside all SEC teams as a result of this fiasco.

Note, I am not saying that Auburn paid Cam or that they cheated in any way. However, the way the law reads, if a player (or their representative) ask for benefits to sign, that player is ineligible. I think there is little doubt this took place and that Cam will eventually be ruled ineligible and the title vacated.

Auburns run to a national title is bad for the SEC. There is no other way around that simple fact. It will bring more scrutiny on the conference by the media, the NCAA and your average college football fan. The Pac10 has avoided this label simply because USC was in a class of their own during their run. You have 4 or 5 programs in the SEC that could legitimately win a national title, not so in the Pac10.

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Who the hell has Oregon played?

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That argument doesn't fly. It would if they had barely beaten the teams they've played.....but when you're consistently dropping 50+ points on your opponents, that's enough to get my attention.

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So if Oregon wins, will they be questioned because of USC's past?

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Don't know. It is a shame it has gotten to this point in the first place with Auburn. It is a lose/lose situation. The very fact that it has gotten this far is a travesty if there is legit evidence that Cam is ineligible.

Edit: Point being, even if Auburn didn't cheat to get Cam (or other players), there is enough circumstantial evidence out there to indicate they now probably know he will eventually be ruled ineligible. However, they have taken the position that we will not do the right thing (potentially) and sit him but are going to go down with the ship. As a result, they knock a team like TCU, or others, out of a shot for the title, or potentially beat Oregon when they are more deserving.

If Auburn defeats Pac 10 school Oregon for the NC and then loses it's Title due to the Cam Newton mess the bad publicity for Auburn and the SEC will be historic. That would mean 2 recent schools having to vacate for somewhat similar reasons. I can't figure how Auburn has figured into both of these situations, wanting USC's NC and maybe having to give theirs up for the same reasons.

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Yawn....another hate post from Delta Doc - nothing new to see here.

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Link to hate posts?

dude you have been all over AU's jock, ready to drop the hammer - as if you were the NCAA.


but to each their own man. I hope you have to eat crow. time will tell.

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dude you have been all over AU's jock, ready to drop the hammer - as if you were the NCAA.


but to each their own man. I hope you have to eat crow. time will tell.

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I'll play nice since you provide no evidence that I put forth so called "hate posts".

What specifically do you disagree with in my post above? Do you disagree that there is circumstantial evidence of Cecil Newton asking for cash? If Auburn knows this, do you disagree that they are currently knowingly playing an ineligible player, or player to be ruled ineligible at a later date? Do you disagree that Auburn winning a national title and then having it vacated is bad for the SEC?

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If Auburn defeats Pac 10 school Oregon for the NC and then loses it's Title due to the Cam Newton mess the bad publicity for Auburn and the SEC will be historic.

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Seems certain fans in the SEC would have no one to blame but themselves for that bad publicity in trying to rip apart another school. ... we'll see how this turns out, but it will be interesting to hear the reactions from those saying "Auburn is doomed" and "title will be stripped" when Auburn is vindicated

I will admit that vacating it after the fact would be bad.


but every post you make has the tone that we are 100% guilty, when in fact its about middle of the road - 50/50. this isnt head in the sand, its realistic - there is guilt and non guilt. until we are found either way, you cant say its gonan happen - cause you don't have a clue how its gonna turn out.

and do what NorthGwinette said - just search your posts - all you do is down our prgram - especially after the CAMGate garbage. certainly you arent the only one, and some of our fanbase on these forums don't help matters - but damn dude, give it a rest.

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Now proof that Cam's Dad may have crossed the line

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thats kind of contradictory tbh. there is either evidence or there isn't. I do agree with a reaction being justified, however an Overreaction is not.