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re: I’m glad gus is gone
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:08 am to LanierSpots
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:08 am to LanierSpots
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You drew a pretty curved line there baw..
Naw... just some Bammer rationale.
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Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:08 am to blzr
quote:Saban damn sure beat a bunch of "solid" Gus teams.
Saban never beat a good Gus team
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:08 am to RT1941
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Saban damn sure beat a bunch of "solid" Gus teams.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:13 am to DaDudeAbides
quote:When was the last time Auburn put together back to back 9 win seasons?
Exactly. Alabama hasn't beaten a 9 win Auburn team since 1994.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:13 am to Atxgump
What's going to be really funny is in a few years when the new guy is 0fer against Bama and Auburn fans everywhere are pining for the good ole days of Gusball.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:15 am to DaDudeAbides
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Exactly. Alabama hasn't beaten a 9 win Auburn team since 1994.
Since 94, the head to head record is 14-13. But aUbUrN iS oNlY gOoD oNcE oR tWIcE a DeCaDe!
Getting to 9 wins just over 40% of the time in the last 25+ years kind of supports the idea.
And, almost everything between Stallings and Saban was hot garbage with Bama's own coaching hire debacles and probation leading to the worst decade of Bama football since the 50s, so that also makes the random 27 year cutoff all the more random. Going back to 40 years and I think its 20-20, which is a stronger case for AU. No need to cherrypick
Since Pat Dye, AU has been its most competitive against Bama in the series history. Lots of classic games, and it really caused the rivalry to take hold within 2 generations+ of fans. No knock on AU at all. They play Bama tough more often than not no matter who their coach is.
2010s has been the most competitive decade of the series since the 80s, yet the programs couldn't be further apart.
It is an odd rivalry where Bama generally wins big or loses a close game no matter the records of either team.
Personally, I am glad Gus is gone. He managed to help AU trip up Bama a bit too often and at the worst points in time for my taste. Gustavus had the golden horseshoe and ability to make Saban's game day coaching turn to shite.
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 8:21 am
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:24 am to Marktastic86
quote:Gus had problems scouting for oline. I suppose he had his own ideas on what he wanted from olinemen (size/strength), but he failed to recruit that position far too long and now it's caught up with them. It's really odd because his offensive scheme needed great line production for the offense to click.
It just seemed like every QB Gus recruited never got better, and even the transfers he had like Stidham seemed to regress the longer they stayed. Marshall was perfect for his system, though, for whatever reason.
Stidham ran for his life his last year and got so gun-shy that he'd bail out of the play when it wasn't needed. He'd have improved significantly his if he had a line to protect him. I'm not sure Gus specifically to blame for lack of QB development, Lashley/Dillingham/Lindsey/Morris were there to train the QBs and they got mediocre results in those 7-8 yrs at AU.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:24 am to DaDudeAbides
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Exactly. Alabama hasn't beaten a 9 win Auburn team since 1994.
Since 94, the head to head record is 14-13. But aUbUrN iS oNlY gOoD oNcE oR tWIcE a DeCaDe!
Are you defining 9 wins as good? Auburn hasn’t had back to back 10 win seasons in over 30 years. So the idea that good auburn teams are rare isn’t exactly a fallacy. But it really depends on what you define as good or not good.
It’s also strange that this idea that Auburn is good or not good is based on 9 wins. Especially when you consider the large number of 8 win AU teams Alabama has beaten in your time frame. It’s basically saying AU is good if they beat Alabama and reach 9 or more wins. But they aren’t good if they lose to Alabama and have 8 wins or fewer.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:34 am to Rhino5
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They’re worried. They knew what they had in Gus/AU. But with Saban getting older, they’re worried who we will hire and what’s next when Saban leaves.
Nobody is afraid of Auburn. Bama has been a championship program for 100 years. They were winning before Saban was born and they’ll win long after he’s gone. A Bama coach not named Saban will win a national championship before any Auburn coach will.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:36 am to Rhino5
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But with Saban getting older, they’re worried who we will hire and what’s next when Saban leaves.
You act like Bama will fall off a cliff when Saban retires, when it's more likely that they will resemble what OSU is doing with Ryan Day. The cupboard will not be bare, and I'm guessing one of the best available coaches in the country will come on board to keep everything running smoothly. I don't blame you for hoping that doesn't happen.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:40 am to Marktastic86
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act like Bama will fall off a cliff when Saban retires,
The immediate hire is getting a Ferrari that even Larry Coker could drive to ATL and/or onto the CFPs in 2 of the 4 years immediately after Saban.
It will take significant effort to mess it up too badly, too soon.
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 9:42 am
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:42 am to MrAUTigers
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saban was 5-3 against Gus. You are saying the GOAT lost to some shitty Auburn teams?
Yes. 2019 AU was a bad team with a horrible QB. Definitely the most embarrassing loss. 2017 AU was a good team for 2-3 weeks and ended up with 4 losses. Can't take anything away from 2013 AU, even with all their miracles. That running game was impressive. Hope that answers your question.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 1:23 pm to RT1941
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When was the last time Auburn put together back to back 9 win seasons?
Four years prior to the last time Bama beat a 9 win Auburn team...
Posted on 12/16/20 at 1:58 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Are you defining 9 wins as good?
You define it for me seeing as how it's been over two and a half decades since Bama has beaten an Auburn team that won 9 or more games.
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Auburn hasn’t had back to back 10 win seasons in over 30 years.
And it's been nearly 27 years since Alabama last beat a 9 win Auburn team. Alabama's Iron Bowl record since Auburn's last back to back 9 win season is 17-16.
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It’s also strange that this idea that Auburn is good or not good is based on 9 wins. Especially when you consider the large number of 8 win AU teams Alabama has beaten in your time frame. It’s basically saying AU is good if they beat Alabama and reach 9 or more wins. But they aren’t good if they lose to Alabama and have 8 wins or fewer.
This is a fancy way of moving the goal posts in an attempt to devalue the fact that Bama hasn't beaten a 9 win Auburn team since 1994 and the head to head record since then is 14-13.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:52 pm to Atxgump
Me too. The hogs used to own Auburn before Gus and I think we've only beaten them once since.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:20 pm to Atxgump
I agree with OP. Gus had Saban' number in so far as that meant beating him every 2 to 3 years.
Beyond his ability to get his teams to focus on only one game a year, here are some other things that always irritated me about Gus.
1. Chewing that damn gum. If we could harness the power generated by that man's jaws while chewing gum, we could power Alabama for year.
2. Him being so animated when he wanted his team to go "NASCAR". They get it Gus, hurry up offense, snap the ball quickly.
3. The way he always decided to run a 2-min offense at the end of a game he was losing by 3 possessions. There could be 30 seconds on the clock, AUB down 45 to 21 and he scores a gimme TD then he tries to onside kick with 20 seconds left and 2 possessions to go. Why be such a dick? Just take the L.
Beyond his ability to get his teams to focus on only one game a year, here are some other things that always irritated me about Gus.
1. Chewing that damn gum. If we could harness the power generated by that man's jaws while chewing gum, we could power Alabama for year.
2. Him being so animated when he wanted his team to go "NASCAR". They get it Gus, hurry up offense, snap the ball quickly.
3. The way he always decided to run a 2-min offense at the end of a game he was losing by 3 possessions. There could be 30 seconds on the clock, AUB down 45 to 21 and he scores a gimme TD then he tries to onside kick with 20 seconds left and 2 possessions to go. Why be such a dick? Just take the L.
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