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re: I'm feeling Mullen is gonna do really well at UF

Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:33 am to
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:33 am to
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A: They are in no way similar, like not even close.

B: If you think the SEC West wasn’t the best division in football during Mullen's run at Mississippi State you’ve either been living under a rock, or you have an agenda you are trying to push. Either way you’re wrong.


Maybe you don't understand what "similar" means, but Both won 10 at a tough place to win in a conference dominated by one power.

I didn't say best or not. You didn't say anything to refute what I said about the west, so how am I wrong?
Posted by GatorBait24
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Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:35 am to
What are you talking about my first reply in this thread is “we will see if he can recruit well enough, he hasn’t proven he can do it yet.”
Are you sure we aren’t thinking about it? Do you pay attention to anything or do you just blurt the first thing that comes to your head always?
Posted by GatorBait24
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:43 am to
Alabama, Auburn, and LSU all from the same division, all went to title games during Mullen’s run at MSU. Ole Miss had one of its best runs as a program, Arkansas under Petrino was good, A&M had a Hiesman winner all while Mullen was there. I’m not sure what other division in Football can say that. As far as your other point, I can’t take a comparison of the SEC and the Mountain West seriously. So I’m going to just let you believe what you want too believe.
This post was edited on 3/30/18 at 10:44 am
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:01 am to
So 10 wins at a tough spot to win isn't Similar to you. Got it.

Bama is always badass, so let's look at the rest of the West From 09-17:

LSU was awesome 1x
Auburn was awesome 3x
ANM was awesome 1x
ARK was awesome 2x
OM was awesome 1x

Hardly worthy of this juggernaut talk.
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:08 am to
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Not worried




ah, you Georgia fans are new at this dominant recruiting thing. I mean, yeah, y'all have the coaching, but recruiting is only one piece.
Posted by dan765
Charleston
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:08 am to
They will be 'back', sure, but they wont reach the success they had under Urban, not while UGA is recruiting at such a high level.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:11 am to
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yeah, y'all have the coaching, but recruiting is only one piece.


So we have the 2 pieces needed?
Posted by GatorBait24
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:13 am to
Please name another division in Football where all 7 teams in the same division were good to great at some point in time over a 7 year span, I’ll wait. You’re little breakdown just made my argument for me.
The SEC East has, Tennessee, Kentucky,Vanderbilt, Missouri and they have all been terrible.
The ACC Atlantic has Syracuse, BC, and WF all have been terrible.
The ACC Coastal has Virgina, Duke, Pitt they aren’t good either.
The Big 12 doesn’t have divisions but Kansas, Baylor, Texas, Texas Tech, and Iowa State have all been bad.
Big Ten Eastern Rutgers, Indiana, Maryland all terrible
Big Ten West Illinois, Purdue, Minnesota, and Nebraska have been terrible.
PAC 12 North Cal, OSU are terrible
PAC 12 South Arizona, ASU, Colorado, UCLA aren’t very good either.

Should I break this down anymore for you or are you on the same page now?
This post was edited on 3/30/18 at 11:16 am
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:17 am to
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So we have the 2 pieces needed?


yes, absolutely.

My point was to respond to the other poster pointing out your great recruiting to LSU or fan(s). Been there, failed at that...
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:18 am to
I actually agree with you on McElwain to some degree, because he was trending upward but the fact of the matter is : He simply had no prestige nor the will to actually rebuild. I think his prestige hurt him the most.

Mullen won championships at Florida, and he was at the worst SEC school for football and consistently had them winning 8 games a year while playing in a league of murderers.

That he destroyed LSU last year with a team that's essentially 20 recruiting slots behind them is impressive by itself, but that he had to compete against those teams with his hands behind his back trying to recruit guys to ''Starkvegas'' is pretty amazing.

I mean just look at the skill positions that got an automatic upgrade.

Aeris Williams was a very low 4* composite player, Jordan Scarlett is almost a full five points better than him. We have backups that are more highly rated than Aeris, and every RB on the roster is more highly rated than the backup at MSU.

Even at receiver, Toney is the only 3* WR. Their best receiver is at 91 -- in this class alone Mullen has 4 WRs that are ore highly rated (Jefferson, Grimes, Watkins, Copeland), on the roster already he has three WRs better rated than their best WR that I know off the top of my head (Cleveland, Hammond, Swain).

So he has 7 receivers that are more highly rated than his best receiver at MSU and he hasn't even coached a game yet. Wait until you see his offense with real talent on the field.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:20 am to
If Florida is so great with recruiting and resources, why are they 0-1 to Arkansas? I mean if Dan Mullen has these advantages, why is Florida losing to mediocre teams?

Why wasn't Mullen hired when Boom was? I mean he was a QB Whisperer then too. Why has he never got a shot anywhere else? Ask yourself if Florida could've hired better. I think they could of.
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:20 am to
You are making way to much sense, slow down there they may not be able to keep up.
This post was edited on 3/31/18 at 7:18 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:23 am to
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So 10 wins at a tough spot to win isn't Similar to you.


See, the problem is you're not seeming to understand that the Mountain West isn't exactly like the SEC West. MSU is the bottom feeder of the SEC West and they were playing three teams from the same division that all won national championships in modern times, something a Dog fan who isn't like 50 won't really understand. LSU has been nationally a good team for a while, Auburn has as well and of course Alabama is Alabama. The West has been one of the most dominant divisions of the best conference for the past decade, and coaching at the Vanderbilt of the West and averaging 8 wins a season is amazing.

You gotta stop that bad arguent,
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
6171 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:24 am to
We lost to Arkansas because we had McElwain and his amazing QB Del Rio you know this. To your other point Mullen didn’t want to work for Jermey Foley and I don’t blame him. Foley is out of the picture with a token job and office now. Foley thought he could bargain bin shop for football coaches and facilities and he was dead wrong. Stricklin isn’t afraid to throw our money around with the best of them. Any other questions?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41352 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:24 am to
Outside of Bama, the west is usually filled with average to bad teams with an occassional awesome team to go with bama. If that made your point, then your point isn't very good.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:26 am to
I personally hated the Muschamp hire, but he was the "next big thing", coach in waiting at Texas. We should have hired Mullen back then, but things have a weird way of coming back around.
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
6171 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:27 am to
Obviously you didn’t read my breakdown of the other divisions in CFB please tell me a better division in CFB then the SEC West the last decade. Do you even have an argument for another division? Or do you just have to disagree with everything I say?
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
6171 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:29 am to
Vanderbilt without the Academics and Nashville to sell.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:29 am to
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Mullen won championships at Florida, 


Didn't McElwain win a National Championship while he was at Bama?

I mean this shite is a stretch.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41352 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:33 am to
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Obviously you didn’t read my breakdown of the other divisions in CFB please tell me a better division in CFB then the SEC West the last decade. Do you even have an argument for another division? Or do you just have to disagree with everything I say?



You listed all the positives from the west and all the negatives from the other divisions. I did notice that.

Even IF the west is the toughest division, it could be nothing more than a negligible difference, and it might not be the case every single season.

We do know There are plenty of average and weak teams in the west, thus making the distinction rather pointless.
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