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re: I'm a little irritated..........with "some" Aggies
Posted on 9/30/11 at 12:44 pm to Teague
Posted on 9/30/11 at 12:44 pm to Teague
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Reports immediately following the announcement of A&M’s acceptance into the SEC today stated ESPN would be increasing rights fees to allow SEC members to receive at least the same compensation they would have received prior to A&M’s addition.
That's gotta be before contract re-negotiations. I don't think Slive is stupid enough to randomly add a team that isn't going to be lucrative for the conference...in terms of TV $$$.
You guys don't give him enough credit. he is a very smart man.
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Posted on 9/30/11 at 12:45 pm to NATidefan
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8th, by a long shot.
Yeah, I must have skipped over one. And I was being nice by not pointing out they are just barely ahead of kentucky.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 12:49 pm to Sherwood Brotron
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That's gotta be before contract re-negotiations. I don't think Slive is stupid enough to randomly add a team that isn't going to be lucrative for the conference...in terms of TV $$$.
You guys don't give him enough credit. he is a very smart man.
It is lucrative in the fact you cover your own arse, we still make the same amount, and we get to stay ahead of the game in the super conference race to keep those contracts in the future.
If the Pac 10, Big 10, and ACC all became superconferences and the SEC didn't add any teams we might lose those bigger contracts. This wasn't a make more money move, it was a survive and grow move.
If your shithole conference had stayed together, none of this would have happened.
This post was edited on 9/30/11 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 9/30/11 at 12:52 pm to Teague
A few points:
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This. We're the ones making the change. We should do our best to make the transition as effortless as possible for current members.
2. It's all about TV $$$. 25 million potential viewers makes a huge difference. Otherwise, the expansion would have been meaningless. Slive is a pretty smart dude. Do you trust him?
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The A&Ms and MizzWHOs are the teams who should make the sacrifices, as they are the ones screwing everything up.
This. We're the ones making the change. We should do our best to make the transition as effortless as possible for current members.
2. It's all about TV $$$. 25 million potential viewers makes a huge difference. Otherwise, the expansion would have been meaningless. Slive is a pretty smart dude. Do you trust him?
Posted on 9/30/11 at 12:54 pm to NATidefan
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It is lucrative in the fact you cover your own arse, we still make the same amount, and we get to stay ahead of the game in the super conference race to keep those contracts in the future.
Ha, this is just wrong. Every school in the SEC will make more money when the TV contracts are renegotiated.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 12:56 pm to KaiserSoze99
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2. It's all about TV $$$. 25 million potential viewers makes a huge difference. Otherwise, the expansion would have been meaningless. Slive is a pretty smart dude. Do you trust him?
I just dont even know anymore... I used to trust him
Things can change, didn't you trust Dan Beebe at one point?
Posted on 9/30/11 at 12:57 pm to LarrySellers
Dan Beebe was texas' puppet. Are you trying to say that Slive is Texas A&M's puppet?
And let's not forget that he was acting with unanimous support from the leaders of each school.
And let's not forget that he was acting with unanimous support from the leaders of each school.
This post was edited on 9/30/11 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:00 pm to LarrySellers
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I just dont even know anymore... I used to trust him
I think it was the right move considering what the Big 10 and Pac 10 are doing, I don't think Slive had much of a choice if he wanted to maintain the SEC's current dominance.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:02 pm to KaiserSoze99
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It's all about TV $$$. 25 million potential viewers makes a huge difference.
TV contracts aren't negotiated on "potential". How many of those are actual viewers of aTm?
As I said, we're not going to gain a lot in terms of revenue.
EXCEPT that some other conferences have recently gotten better deals than the SEC and this will be a way to renegotiate.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:03 pm to NATidefan
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I don't think Slive had much of a choice if he wanted to maintain the SEC's current dominance.
How does the addition of Texas A&M help maintain SEC dominance if we offer nothing to the conference?
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:04 pm to Sherwood Brotron
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Dan Beebe was texas' puppet. Are you trying to say that Slive is Texas A&M's puppet?
um no, i was trying to say trust for someone can quickly change
I imagine Big XII fans didn't always hate Dan Beebe, but they sure do now
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:05 pm to Sherwood Brotron
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How does the addition of Texas A&M help maintain SEC dominance if we offer nothing to the conference?
that is what is boggling the minds of SEC fans across the country
it doesn't, not even a tiny bit. and neither would missouri
we are being pimped out for additional TV dollars, by adding mediocre programs that water down the conference. But Slive can now afford a bigger Jet so I guess he fells its worth it
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:08 pm to Teague
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TV contracts aren't negotiated on "potential". How many of those are actual viewers of aTm?
Teague, I think that actually they are
otherwise, A&M wouldn't be much of a big deal for TV, b/c you'll never convince me fans in Texas will turn off the Longhorns to watch the Aggies just b/c now they are in the SEC...
but there is "potential" for the SEC to now deliver those markets, which TV ad execs think is great for some reason
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:13 pm to LarrySellers
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it doesn't, not even a tiny bit. and neither would missouri
uummm...mmmkay. There's no changing your mind, obviously. If you can't admit that the addition of a program in the top 20, with a huge alum base, in the second most populated state in the U.S. is even "a tiny bit" beneficial to the conference, there is no hope for you.
We could sit here and argue about HOW MUCH of a difference it would make, but you've taken such an unreasonable position that I am pretty sure there is no point.
This post was edited on 9/30/11 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:25 pm to Sherwood Brotron
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How does the addition of Texas A&M help maintain SEC dominance if we offer nothing to the conference?
Like I said before, you help us stay ahead of the game in the super conference move that has been brought on by the big 10, pac 10, and the collapse of the big 12.
Have you forgotten that this is the whole reason this is all happening? We didn't just say, oh, let's add the aggies cause we will make a shite ton more money with them and they are such a powerhouse. damn you are arrogant if you think that's the case. The SEC made plenty of money and was plenty strong enough before your conference collapsed.
This post was edited on 9/30/11 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:29 pm to KaiserSoze99
NAtide, looks like you've been holding down the fort
1. A&m fans need to learn the difference between needs and wants. Slive and presidents wanted more revenue, the SEC did not need A&M whatsoever. Any of you who think the SEC initiated the conversation between the two of us is riding on a shorter bus than I thought.
2. Aggie fans, grow some thicker skin about your traditions. This is a message board. Y'all have some pretty gay looking shite as traditions, it is going to be made fun of, deal with it. We all still make fun of bama for their gay arse statues.
Florida for their fugly jorts, us aubs for our tree hugging, multiple mascot loving ways. Plus we cheat.
Grow some skin, this is the SEC
1. A&m fans need to learn the difference between needs and wants. Slive and presidents wanted more revenue, the SEC did not need A&M whatsoever. Any of you who think the SEC initiated the conversation between the two of us is riding on a shorter bus than I thought.
2. Aggie fans, grow some thicker skin about your traditions. This is a message board. Y'all have some pretty gay looking shite as traditions, it is going to be made fun of, deal with it. We all still make fun of bama for their gay arse statues.
Florida for their fugly jorts, us aubs for our tree hugging, multiple mascot loving ways. Plus we cheat.
Grow some skin, this is the SEC
This post was edited on 9/30/11 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:34 pm to KaiserSoze99
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uummm...mmmkay. There's no changing your mind, obviously. If you can't admit that the addition of a program in the top 20, with a huge alum base, in the second most populated state in the U.S. is even "a tiny bit" beneficial to the conference, there is no hope for you.
We could sit here and argue about HOW MUCH of a difference it would make, but you've taken such an unreasonable position that I am pretty sure there is no point.
as far as football relevance? How does A&M help the SEC?
When is the last time ya'll even won your division in the Big XII? When is the last time you went to a Big XII title game? When the last time you won the Big XII ?
How does adding a middle of the road Big XII team help the national dominance of the SEC? If you can't win the Big XII South, you sure as hell wont ever win the SEC West. And in the SEC, we measure success by SEC Titles, BCS Games and National Championships
Not 6-6 seasons with a win over a rival and a blowout loss in a bowl game
A&M was added for TV Markets ONLY... it is what it is, accept it
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:39 pm to NATidefan
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Like I said before, you help us stay ahead of the game in the super conference move that has been brought on by the big 10, pac 10, and the collapse of the big 12.
I agree that this was the primary reason for expanding. But, the secondary reason (and only slightly less important) was the big fat-arse contract the Pac-12 secured earlier this year. Don't kid yourself. That was a huge reason. A&M was the best school of any potential addition, in terms of TV markets, fan base, geography, and cultural.
Alabama, Tennessee, LSU, Florida, Georgia, Arkie, and Auburn are all monster programs. A&M may not be at the top of that list, but dude, objectively speaking....taking off the maroon goggles.....the SEC added another monster. Name another program not clad in burnt orange that would have been bigger?
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:40 pm to LarrySellers
One positive thing about the Aggie addition:
I've never seen this many SEC fans agree on something like we are currently agreeing on the ultimate gayness of Texas A&M
I've never felt I had more in common with my fellow SEC fans than I do right now when talking about the A&M Cheer Practice and Milk Men Cheerleaders
Its like this annoyance of Texas A&M has brought us all together
I've never seen this many SEC fans agree on something like we are currently agreeing on the ultimate gayness of Texas A&M
I've never felt I had more in common with my fellow SEC fans than I do right now when talking about the A&M Cheer Practice and Milk Men Cheerleaders
Its like this annoyance of Texas A&M has brought us all together
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:41 pm to LarrySellers
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Its like this annoyance of Texas A&M has brought us all together
Truth, and that pisses me off even more.
Screw all of you
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