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re: If your state had to narrow it down to one university...

Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by TheRaid
Currently Living in South Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:26 pm to
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Miami over both. Better academically, sports are solid, and in a city with plenty to do.


LSUFBALL19:

You have absolutely no clue about what you are talking about. Miami has a few niche things it does well and is the top in the state in a couple of research programs, but they are not on the map with any of the following universities in Florida for academics, overall research, athletics, resources, student performance, professor rankings, teaching scores, or diversity of programming, and they actually do rank behind them, which you would know if you ever read the Chronicle for Higher Education:

1. UF
2. UCF
3. USF
4. FSU
Miami goes here.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:51 pm to
Academics are a push. Sometimes they're a few spots ahead of us in the rankings and sometimes we're a few spots ahead of them. We're both AAU members.
Athletics? Not even close. We have a bajillion more NCAA titles.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:57 pm to
Mississippi State over all other ms schools because lawyers are useless and considering our state is the least healthy by choice... doctors aren't really needed either. that leaves us with engineers, business, agriculture and other sciences... and regarding sports... they are similar competitively but our fans actually go to the games to watch them bec... not to just get pissass drunk and stand under some trees like its a magical paradise... thus state leads the way by a bunch.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 2:06 pm
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:08 pm to
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Having one university for a state of over 27 M is ridiculous. That said A&M and tu are the only possible choices. The problem with tu is they cannot expand enough. A&M has and is in the middle of huge growth. Our campus could double in size because there is real-estate to grow. tu, on the other hand, couldn't properly launch a new campus in Houston. They ended up wasting hundreds of millions of dollars buying a toxic, flooding dump.

As for athletic departments, A&M has a lead currently and has for what seems like almost a decade now.

But really this is just another offseason troll thread.



first thing in life.. figure out where you really stand in the pecking order. Missed opportunities and getting whacked are minimized that way.

There is only one choice in the state of Texas. The University of Texas. If the boat takes on water, who do you think they save? The heir to the throne or the red headed step child that was forced upon them?

Texas is additionally the default answer because.. who else is going to subsidize your lifestyle and manage your money for you? A&M is basically a redneck trust fund kid who was lucky that some rich dude wanted to actually marry their slut mom.

"The problem with tu is they cannot expand enough. A&M has and is in the middle of huge growth. Our campus could double in size because there is real-estate to grow."

How many trips to the feed store did it take to come up with that ground breaking competitive theory?

"tu, on the other hand, couldn't properly launch a new campus in Houston. They ended up wasting hundreds of millions of dollars buying a toxic, flooding dump."

The departure from the Houston plans was pure politics, sometimes you give up a battle to secure the war. The greater Houston area and state of Texas was the big loser here.. that's the truly sad part.

"Flooding dump"? You mean the property previously held by one of our top land development alumnus who brought the deal to the University at below market value for future considerations? Watch the math play out on where that transaction settles over the next 5 years.

Did you prefer the beads and whiskey or think that the wasteland called Manhattan was the better end of the deal?

quote:

As for athletic departments, A&M has a lead currently and has for what seems like almost a decade now.


Congratulations, we've fallen back to your level for now.

Aggie victory defined.


And the family had a meeting, not sure if anyone told you. Reminder, just because you keep knocking out more kids does not mean we will raise your allowance.


This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 2:11 pm
Posted by PinkTigahPrincess
NOLA
Member since Mar 2017
57 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:11 pm to
Alabama- South Alabama Mobile is the only city in the state that is decent
Arkansas- Who gives a frick
Georgia- UGA
Florida- Miami
Kentucky- Kentucky
Louisana- LSU
Mississippi- Hines Community College
South Carolina- The Citadel
Tennessee- Memphis
Texas- Texas

Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 3:26 pm to
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As for athletic departments, A&M has a lead currently and has for what seems like almost a decade now.



LINK
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 3:44 pm to
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"tu, on the other hand, couldn't properly launch a new campus in Houston. They ended up wasting hundreds of millions of dollars buying a toxic, flooding dump."

The departure from the Houston plans was pure politics, sometimes you give up a battle to secure the war. The greater Houston area and state of Texas was the big loser here.. that's the truly sad part.

"Flooding dump"? You mean the property previously held by one of our top land development alumnus who brought the deal to the University at below market value for future considerations? Watch the math play out on where that transaction settles over the next 5 years.

I am so glad you wrote this, because the aggy line is that it's a Superfund site from which they'll lose every penny invested.

It's not a Superfund site (that was the University of Houston legislator -- a liberal Democrat -- who put that little seed in aggy's head, and they ran with it).

There is already development on it, along with two golf courses.

UT will make money off the deal and aggy will cry (again).

Poor aggy, they have a 77 percent acceptance rate and want 100,000 students. They are heading toward being a diploma mill on the level of the University of Central Florida and their alumni think that's fan-friggin'-tastic. (Me too.)

Their system schools suck arse, btw.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:27 pm to
That acceptance rate is actually higher than UCF's.

Edit: Is that just College Station or the other schools too like in Corpus Christi, Kingsville, etc?
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 4:35 pm
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:39 pm to
They've been hovering between 2/3 and 3/4 acceptance rates for a while now.

Their chancellor thought they would get more per-student state funding because of size, but they actually got a lower percentage as a share. Self-ownage.

Meanwhile, their football season tickets are being cancelled and dropped at a dizzying pace.

The "most loyal fanbase in America" dropping football season tickets like hot turds
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:42 pm to
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:42 pm to
Miami is a private university.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:43 pm to
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South Carolina- The Citadel


lol

that wud really suck for students who grow up in SC.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 4:44 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:53 pm to
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Just College Station.

That's actually not bad compared to the rest of the conference.

Vanderbilt: 12%
Florida: 48%
Georgia: 53%
Alabama: 54%
Arkansas: 60%
South Carolina: 65%
Texas A&M: 66%
Mississippi State: 71%
Tennessee: 76%
LSU: 77%
Auburn: 78%
Missouri: 78%
Ole Miss: 79%
Kentucky: 91%

S-E-C! S-E-C! S-E-C!
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:56 pm to
Florida acceptance rate is lower simply b/c it is the main uni in a heavily populated state.

it isn't evidence the university is better.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 4:57 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:57 pm to
Interestingly, USF has the lowest acceptance rate here.

1. USF: 47.5%
2. UF: 48%
3. UCF: 49%
4. FSU: 56%
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:59 pm to
I imagine the popularity of USF is it is the closet big public to the beach. :)

it's acceptance rate is probably more driven by out of state kids from other parts of country. obviously tampa more convenient with a major airport.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 5:03 pm
Posted by PinkTigahPrincess
NOLA
Member since Mar 2017
57 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 5:03 pm to
They need a little discipline in their life in South Carolina I guess
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 5:06 pm to
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Putting UGA over Emory is a joke and you know it


The entire premise (other than being a clear troll) pretty much automatically precludes private schools from being the choice here. So Emory would still stay, it would just mean UGA is *the* state school (meaning public). And again the question was asked of "Academics/Sports/Etc."

With that said, from a sheer value of the degree standpoint, if you're in state, the ROI analysis is simply not good for Emory.
Median starting salary leaving Emory is 49k compared to about 42k I believe most recently? And that's at a 4x+ tuition cost... Out of state on the other hand, Emory is very attractive. UGA's OOS tuition is like 30k compared to the 45-50k or so for Emory? Still a 33% hike for only a 20% increase in starting salary, but more digestible. (Side note: I would also largely point to the fact that median starting salary has a lot more to do with *where* students get their jobs, rather than what type of jobs they get (with a few notable exceptions - see engineering for GT for example)... would be very curious to see a breakdown of 5 year and 10 year salaries of graduates but haven't ever seen that done anywhere that I recall.)

For both, the "value" of the institution is certainly higher if you remain in the southeast region, neither have a ton of "name brand" value outside of the southeast. Also, as most people will attest, beyond your first job (if you're doing it right), where you went just doesn't matter as much as it has in the past. Exceptions being made for career paths that involve mandatory secondary degrees (Law, Medicine, etc) but even in the business world, you can get your undergrad pretty much wherever you want, and so long as you have a decent GMAT score and not terrible grades, it's largely enough to get you into most any MBA program that you want.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 5:10 pm to
Auburn and UAH could make for a damned good engineering institution.
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:52 pm to
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That acceptance rate is actually higher than UCF's.

Edit: Is that just College Station or the other schools too like in Corpus Christi, Kingsville, etc?



main campus alone is higher than UCF.

like the Houston deal being taken off the board by Texas, the A&M leaderships move to drive enrollment is a statewide loss.

The motive is ridiculous and embarrassingly short sighted and already failed to meet it's top priority.

In short a few idiots watered down the value of a Texas A&M degree, have returned very little of the growth back back into the University for value purposes and opened up the floodgates for other state universities to successfully appeal for subsidization from the state(PUF funding that sets both UT and A&M apart from most state schools across the country much less Texas).

Take the sports history off the table, A&M is the junior flagship university in the state, this is bad for everyone. Then you have those with family members that went to A&M vs UT.. self included. At a certain point you feel their pain.

That pain will eventually hit home even closer.. it's getting more and more difficult to gain acceptance to UT. Sucks if your grandson would be the first in 5 generations to not attend UT, but at least A&M was a very respectable second option. The guys playing on the checker board in College Station are well on their way to pissing that way.
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