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re: If we're going to grandfather old rivalries in the name of tradition

Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:07 pm to
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I find it troublesome you seriously do not understand how TV contracts work. The night time isn't the big time for Saturdays. If 1 member of the SEC refused to play the 2:30 slot, then how would that impact CBS? Obviously, it would have made the SEC CBS deal less valuable.


ok, if thats the priority then lets let the netowrks write the schedules every year. Throw out all divisions, rotations and rivalries.


Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:08 pm to
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Rivalry games are not the last game of the year.




signed: Michigan-Ohio State, Auburn-Alabama, Harvard-Yale, Army-Navy, Cal-Stanford, etc, etc, etc


not signed by AU/UGA, UT/OU, ND/USC, UF/UGA, Bama/UT, UM/ND, GT/CU, etc, etc, etc
Posted by NukemVol
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:09 pm to
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We have a tradition of playing night games in Tiger Stadium that goes back to the early 30s. This tradition is seen as dispensible by the SEC. You would also wonder why your traditions don't seem to matter as much as other schools' if you were in our position. the problem is that you lack perspective. You can't seem to see the situation objectively and are stuck viewing it through your own bias. But like I said, soon it won't matter, all of our traditons will be given up one by one for the almighty dollar. And the whole time each fan base will think theirs are more special than others, so no one will stand together to save what makes college football so special, the individual traditions.


Your post in the other thread made me think you were against traditions in college football. If I had a voice in the matter, LSU would certainly get to keep all their night games, and Bama-UT would play every year. I could give a crap about TV scheduling. But you are right about traditions slowly going away. With the media latched onto the scheduling one, I will be surprised if the UT-Bama game is kept. However, Bama wields a lot of power, and UT used to (not sure anymore since the brand/revenue is trailing over the cliff).
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:09 pm to
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So why should the league mandate that LSU gets this advantage every year?

The same reason for keeping the UGA/AU game annual - TRADITION.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:09 pm to
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ok, if thats the priority then lets let the netowrks write the schedules every year. Throw out all divisions, rotations and rivalries.



They couldn't afford pay off the lawyers for the lawsuits from the pending mass suicides that would result in Louisiana from the bad TV people being unfair to LSU.
Posted by gnarkill1529
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:10 pm to
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largest


agreed

quote:

best


meh thats questionable
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:10 pm to
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ok, if thats the priority then lets let the netowrks write the schedules every year. Throw out all divisions, rotations and rivalries.
That would weaken the product over time and not maximize revenues in the long run.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:11 pm to
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That would weaken the product over time and not maximize revenues in the long run.


I think you could pretty easily argue that the opposite would be the case.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:14 pm to
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This is an inarguable fact.


And so is this:

2012: 7 out of 8 games at night. 1 CBS primetime game.
2011: 2 out of 6 games at night. 3 CBS primetime games. The other one you were playing Kentucky.
2010: 4 out of 7 games at night. 3 CBS primetime games.
2009: 7 out of 7 games at night.
2008: 4 out of 8 games at night. 3 CBS primetime games. The other one you were playing App. State.
2007: 5 out of 7 games at night. 2 CBS primetime games.
2006: 7 out of 8 games at night. The other game was MSU.
2005: 4 out of 6 games at night. 2 CBS primetime games.
2004: 6 out of 7 games at night. The other game was MSU.
2003: 4 out of 7 games at night. 3 CBS primetime games.



So in 10 years, LSU has played 71 home games. 50 of those games have been at night. 17 games were picked up as the CBS primetime game. In 10 years, you have played 4 games that were not a night or #1 game of the weekend.

70% of the games have been at night.
24% have been CBS games.
6% have been neither of the above.


Get the frick over yourselves.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:15 pm to
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I think you could pretty easily argue that the opposite would be the case.



Sure.

But the point is LSU is foaming at the mouth to break a tradition, as it benefits them in a perceived way by making texas a&m their new superbowl at the end of the year, instead of playing in the traditional first game of the year slot.

If LSU is willing to toss aside their own traditions in an effort to better benefit themselves, then why should the rest of the SEC give a shite about when their games kick-off? Because LSU claims this is a "tradition"?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:15 pm to
Why are you including non-conference games?
Posted by NukemVol
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:16 pm to
Tennessee will be back dammit.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:16 pm to
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Why are you including non-conference games?


That is every game you have played in Death Valley, including non-conference games.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:17 pm to
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Why are you including non-conference games?



So it is only a tradition to play conference games at night for LSU?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:17 pm to
[quote]the point is LSU is foaming at the mouth to break a tradition, as it benefits them in a perceived way by making texas a&m their new superbowl[/quote

We do not view the Arkansas game as a tradition
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:17 pm to
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I think you could pretty easily argue that the opposite would be the case.

Knowing how easy it is for you to make illogical arguments, I don't doubt this one bit.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:17 pm to
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So in 10 years, LSU has played 71 home games. 50 of those games have been at night. 17 games were picked up as the CBS primetime game. In 10 years, you have played 4 games that were not a night or #1 game of the weekend.

70% of the games have been at night.
24% have been CBS games.
6% have been neither of the above.


we deserve more
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:18 pm to
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So it is only a tradition to play conference games at night for LSU?


This thread is about protecting SEC traditions through scheduling and our collective dealings with the networks. OOC games do not enter into that.
This post was edited on 5/24/13 at 1:19 pm
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:19 pm to
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Not a real rivalry, then.


I don't care about anyone's rivalries, real or fake.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:20 pm to
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That is every game you have played in Death Valley, including non-conference games.


This thread was made re:conference schedules and dealings. Why again would you include OOC in that?
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