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re: If UGA is able to reach its full potential under Kirby Smart....
Posted on 2/13/18 at 6:03 am to bama1959
Posted on 2/13/18 at 6:03 am to bama1959
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anyone or anything scares Saban in the least bit. You don't become King of the hill by being scared of anything.
You don't understand psychology very well
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 6:15 am to Razor Dawg
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Sorry,recruiting services aren't the reason SEC rosters are loaded with Florida and Georgia kids or the reason why Louisiana puts so many kids in the NFL
I was talking about the kids from Podunk schools.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 6:38 am to artompkins
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UGA has already reached its full potential under Smart.
Yep, with a true freshman QB just like Bama did in "16".........oh wait
Posted on 2/13/18 at 6:48 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
UGA fans have handled almost winning a national championship terribly
Posted on 2/13/18 at 7:09 am to Pdubntrub
But the coaching staff handled it well by pulling in an outstanding recruiting class. As fans what are we supposed to do after losing because of shitty officiating? Have a Coke and a smile?
Posted on 2/13/18 at 7:17 am to DawgRff
By all means keep raising your expectations, that always turns out well
Posted on 2/13/18 at 7:20 am to Pdubntrub
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UGA fans have handled almost winning a national championship terribly
This makes no sense.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 8:23 am to djsdawg
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So you and straws just assume they were all highly rated:
1 undersized 4 star
2 three stars
1 walk on
1 2 star transfer from Tulsa
None of this matters. We started a walk on in the secondary this year. We had a 5* that did nothing his whole career except for get Personal Fouls and give up big plays. Some of our best players have been 3*'s. You will soon learn that not every kid who is a 5* by the recruiting services is actually a 5* player. These rankings are conjecture. Kirby and Chaney choked and blew that game. You are going to have to deal with it until 30 years from now when you get another chance.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 8:25 am to koreandawg
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That roster he used last year will be the least talented he possibly ever coaches again.
You realize you lost to the worst Bama team since 2010 and lost to a bunch of True Freshman in only 2 quarters and one overtime of football. To break it down for you Alabama only needed 2 quarters and an overtime to beat you.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 8:39 am to Jake_LaMotta
You are arguing against yourself again and you still don't know it. You are nothing but a constant face palm personified. Bama needed all those stud freshmen from the badass 2017 class to win the game. Just one less and it's likely a different outcome. Or maybe it's all different if uga just had a more talented secondary or a better interior OL.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 8:56 am to Jake_LaMotta
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We had a 5* that did nothing his whole career except for get Personal Fouls and give up big plays. Some of our best players have been 3*'s. You will soon learn that not every kid who is a 5
Of course you of all people think exceptions prove the rule. Of course.
Just looking at the starters, Your secondary was far more talented than ours was and that played a huge role in that outcome.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:04 am to djsdawg
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Or maybe it's all different if uga just had a more talented secondary or a better interior OL.
That isn't why you lost the game. Kirby Smart and Jim Chaney lost you that game. In only 2 quarters of football.
If Kirby were actually smart he would get rid of Chaney ASAP.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:05 am to djsdawg
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Of course you of all people think exceptions prove the rule
These aren't exceptions. They are Facts. Simply saying because some recruiting analyst who never played any sport ever rates a kid a 5* and that means he is automatically better than a kid who is a 3* or 4* is asinine. It is like you don't know how this works.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:08 am to ZeusStamos
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You're really embarrassed about what some guy you don't even know posts on a message board that other people you don't even know read? Like you really sit down at your computer and feel embarrassment about it? That's pathetic. Dude, this is SEC rant. You really need to get a life.
Perhaps you take things too literally and miss the point in the process. That would actually explain your terrible posting habits.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:13 am to Jake_LaMotta
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That isn't why you lost the game. Kirby Smart and Jim Chaney lost you that game. In only 2 quarters of football.
Uga simply didn't have the secondary to match your passing game with tua or the ol to match Payne in the middle.
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 9:26 am
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:22 am to Jake_LaMotta
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It is like you don't know how this works.
Anecdotal stories about "a recruit" or "some recruits" don't disprove that you're referring to an exception, regardless of the "factual" nature of your claims. It's not terribly surprising that you don't understand that, so we can move on...
From the 2017 NFL draft alone, 23/31 eligible 5* players were drafted... a little over 74%. Of those 23, 17 went in the first two rounds, and TEN were selected in the first round.
Expanding that to include the other ratings, there were:
76 - 4*
90 - 3*
26 - 2*
38 - unranked
Keep in mind that there are roughly 300 4* rated players each year, and more than 3000 rated 3* or below.
The hit rate on those 5* athletes is pretty exceptional when compared to the 25% for 4*, and 5% for 3* or below.
There's nothing magical that automatically makes the #30 guy (a 5*) dramatically better than the #50 guy (a 4*)... but when you look at the numbers on the whole, it tells a significantly different story than what you'd like people to believe based on your personal thoughts and opinions.
You can debate the validity of using the NFL draft to determine accuracy of the rankings if you'd like... should be entertaining to watch you make an arse of yourself for another 3 pages or so.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:25 am to Jake_LaMotta
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exceptions. They are Facts. Simply saying because some recruiting analyst who never played any sport ever rates a kid a 5* and that means he is automatically better than a kid who is a 3* or 4* is asinine. It is like you don't know how this works.
A 3 star outperforming a 5 star is an exception. Odds are against that happening. No one said anything about rankings being perfect and automatic so attempting to make that point is reinforcing your simple status.
Analysts and coaches typically agree with each other on who elite prospects are, so knocking the ranking system is pretty stupid.
Now let's compare secondaries besides the 2 walk ons in the game:
.98 Bama
.97 Bama
.96 uga
.91 Bama
.90 Bama
.85 uga
.84 uga
.79 uga
Bama avg 94
Uga avg 86
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:28 pm to fibonaccisquared
This is where folks like jake and straws run from a discussion.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:51 pm to ZeusStamos
quote:This guy is so excited about the cart that he forgot that he even needs a horse.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:13 pm to djsdawg
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This is where folks like jake and straws run from a discussion.
How did Coach Saban win a NC with a bunch of 3* players and even worse Mike Shula players who when they played for Shula were absolutely mediocre to average at best?
There isn't a Coach in the nation that can develop players like Saban can. What you don't understand is there is more to it than just 'stars'. You have to coach and develop these kids. You have to get them in the weightroom and training table. You have to put them at the correct position on the field.
What is going to be hilarious is after 6 years when Kirby hasn't won a National Championship seeing you try and explain why. I mean isn't that why Richt was fired? Couldn't win it all? So, what happens after year 6 and all these glorious recruiting classes and no NC to show for it. Do you fire Kirby?
Georgia simply isn't a program that is able to compete for national championships other than every 20 to 30 years. Doesn't matter who the coach is.
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