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re: IF Saban returned to LSU and IF he failed

Posted on 10/31/25 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by Nasty_Canasta
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 3:10 pm to
I’d have a hard time believing that any coach leaves Oregon’s and the money machine they print at Nike. Kenny Dillingham is another subject. He probably could be had from Tempe with the right price.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 3:11 pm to
I should have specified that I am not saying those guys are attainable. That is just who I would want if I had my pick.
Posted by Nasty_Canasta
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 3:12 pm to
Nothing wrong with that might as well think big
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 3:22 pm to
I guess you do realize that he is Seventy-Four Years Old. He ain’t coming to Red Stick and thus he will not fail. Period.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103605 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 3:23 pm to
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I guess you do realize that he is Seventy-Four Years Old. He ain’t coming to Red Stick and thus he will not fail. Period.

Did you happen to miss the TWO big capital IFs in the title?
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
26779 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 3:42 pm to
Saban is retired and not coming back ..this is very, very sad. It is like a UF fan thinking Spurrier comes back..just sad.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36296 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 3:44 pm to
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Anyone who believes Saban's BS should be more worried about their own intelligence. I get you're a fan and want to believe, but he is looking out for his own interests.



In 1998, unranked Michigan St beat #1 Ohio St 28-24.

They beat Ohio St again in 1999, but Ohio St already had some losses. But he also beat a Michigan team ranked #3(that was lead by Tom Brady, I remember that team because Alabama played them in the Orange Bowl and lost). As well as wins over Notre Dame, Penn St and a pretty good Florida team.

Michigan St finished the season ranked in the top10 and then LSU hired him away.

Now for the most part, my entire life LSU meant 2 basic things to me. Dove hunting and an easy win. There are exceptions here and there, but Alabama has shut LSU out more times in BR than LSU has wins there. He took over the program and built it into what you know LSU as today. They certainly were not a team that only won because of talent.

Has nothing to do with what I believe, these are the facts.

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You left out his second season. They got progressively worse.


I was talking about his second season. They were playing their 3rd string QB before the year was over

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No shite, he's been doing it for years.


Just butthurt claims with no proof and it's just an ignorant thing to believe in general about any decent coach.

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Nick wants to cap salaries and limit what schools with more money can pay out. Funny how he cries about parity and a level playing field now but not back then.


He's not a coach anymore dipshit. Nothing he says is for his benefit, it's due to his love for the game. He didn't go testify in front of congress because he benefited, he did it to explain the state of the game and what the current laws were doing to it.

And as for "back then", what the frick are you even talking about? This wasn't even a topic back then. But when it did start becoming a topic, he wanted to make it so all players got the same pay. That was about the extent of it.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 3:45 pm
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
6986 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:17 pm to
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I was talking about his second season. They were playing their 3rd string QB before the year was over
I seem to remember a coach winning a national title with a 3rd string QB.
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Just butthurt claims with no proof and it's just an ignorant thing to believe in general about any decent coach.


All those 5 stars chose to play for him out of the goodness of their hearts. UCLA fans used to say the same naive nonsense about John Wooden
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He's not a coach anymore dipshit.
The fact that you thought you had to inform me of this makes me wonder if you're trolling and not being naive.
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Nothing he says is for his benefit, it's due to his love for the game. He didn't go testify in front of congress because he benefited, he did it to explain the state of the game and what the current laws were doing to it.
Don't be naive, everything everyone does benefits themselves. He has a motive.
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And as for "back then", what the frick are you even talking about? This wasn't even a topic back then. But when it did start becoming a topic, he wanted to make it so all players got the same pay. That was about the extent of it.
The old Nick was dog-eat-dog when asked about recruiting under a system that he thrived in, but whimped like a puppy when one of his rivals had a monster recruiting class under a new one and hasn't stopped whining since.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 4:18 pm
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
6986 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:24 pm to
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Did you happen to miss the TWO big capital IFs in the title?
Has a leader for the job emerged? Is money an issue?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36296 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:31 pm to
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I seem to remember a coach winning a national title with a 3rd string QB.


In college football. And it was a benefit to Ohio St in some ways because nobody really had film on him and his weaknesses hadn't been found.

The 3rd string QB for Miami that year was Joey Harrington. A guy who was in his 4th or 5th year and had played multiple games...like 50 of them. A guy known for throwing more interceptions than touchdowns.

You're just showing you don't really understand what you're saying.

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All those 5 stars chose to play for him out of the goodness of their hearts. UCLA fans used to say the same naive nonsense about John Wooden


They played for Saban because they knew he would develop them and they had a much higher chance of having an NFL career. Alabama recruiting material did talk about money - how much money the former players were making in the NFL.

There was an old stat that showed like 50+% of 5 star players that played for Saban were drafted in the 1st round. The average for all of college football was like 20%. The next closest coach was Urban Meyer at like 30%.

Here's another graphic.



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Don't be naive, everything everyone does benefits themselves. He has a motive.


No, that's your life experience because you're probably just a punk kid. Real men do shite to the benefit of other people often. In fact, you should be grateful for every opportunity you get to do such a thing for someone else.

In this case, he's not even coaching anymore so obviously he wouldn't benefit from any changes made.

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The old Nick was dog-eat-dog when asked about recruiting under a system that he thrived in, but whimped like a puppy when one of his rivals had a monster recruiting class under a new one and hasn't stopped whining since.


You're straight pulling this out of your arse. Let's see some quotes and examples. In reality, they use to create rules just to limit Nick Saban and his recruiting. He was known as the hardest working recruiter.

Which is funny, because why would you spend so much time recruiting players when he could just buy them. I wonder why the NFL has scouts instead of recruiters, those noobs must be doing it wrong.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 4:35 pm
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
8635 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:42 pm to
What would happen if DeBoer went 3-0 againat him?
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
6986 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:47 pm to
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You're straight pulling this out of your arse. Let's see some quotes and examples. In reality, they use to create rules just to limit Nick Saban and his recruiting. He was known as the hardest working recruiter.
And the only rule they needed was making it legal for everyone to pay players.
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Which is funny, because why would you spend so much time recruiting players when he could just buy them. I wonder why the NFL has scouts instead of recruiters, those noobs must be doing it wrong.
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You're just showing you don't really understand what you're saying.
You say this and then ask the above in highlight? It is because the NFL has a draft for the top players.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103605 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:48 pm to
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Has a leader for the job emerged?

No clue
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Is money an issue?

Not according to the people making the hire.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36296 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:51 pm to
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And the only rule they needed was making it legal for everyone to pay players.


Alabama is still the most talented team in college football, and our recruiting has stayed at the top every year. We are getting more 5 stars now, we have 5 in current class already.

Claims that NIL is hurting Alabama are baseless.

And of course, you sure as frick couldn't produce a quote to back up your previous claims.

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You say this and then ask the above in highlight? It is because the NFL has a draft for the top players.




Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
6986 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:56 pm to
I did not believe money was an issue, but people keep repeating it. I assumed before they decided to replace BK they had the cash.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36296 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:57 pm to
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Him, Lanning and Dillingham would be my top 3 in no particular order.

ETA: These are just the guys that I like. I have no clue if any would come to LSU.


I think Cignetti is out of since he just signed an extension. Or he will be very expensive in the least. Also he's kind of old. I think he probably coaches at Indiana until he retires or gets fired.

Lanning isn't bad. Gonna be hard to beat that Nike money though. Phil Knight might want an Oregon NC more than damn near anything.

I'm not familiar with Dillingham really. I checked out his record and it's a risky hire. I see he went 11-3 last year, but that's in the "Big12" and lets be honest, the "Big12" now ain't really a power league, and it's kind of silly that we pretend it is.

I don't think he'd be a good one.

Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
6986 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:01 pm to
I never said NIL hurt Alabama, just Saban. I've complimented DeBoer on his recruiting prowess.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36296 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:02 pm to
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I never said NIL hurt Alabama, just Saban. I've complimented DeBoer on his recruiting prowess.


So you think Saban was struggling in recruiting?



You know you can just look at things like recruiting rankings before saying stupid shite right?
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
6986 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:27 pm to
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You know you can just look at things like recruiting rankings before saying stupid shite right?
You need to take your own advice. You yourself said he doesn't like the current setup, and I agree.


Posted by footswitch
New Market
Member since Apr 2015
4631 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:29 pm to
Do you people like being pathetic?
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