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re: If Christian McCaffrey doesn't win the Heisman, then we need to..

Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:50 pm to
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:50 pm to
Better than LF1.63
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:51 pm to
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Sucks no one on that front 7 could stop him on those runs and all y'all had to rely on was a safety or cornerback


Well, when you execute your blocks up front, sometimes you need those safeties to make a tackle. When one is supposed to come into the box, and is instead 30 yards away covering a wideout, that's how she frickin goes Rick.
Posted by cajunbama
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:52 pm to
90 something plus a W.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:54 pm to
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90 something


Kind of what I thought. Probably ran over 30 times too, eh. Not very good for a Heisman candidate.

LF ran 19 times vs Arkansas. He also had 36 yds receiving.
Posted by cajunbama
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:56 pm to
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When you look at the entire season, Fournette did more with less.



Not true at all. For several games Henry didn't even have a reliable back up to rest him. Early we had no passing game anyone respected, still don't really. Late in the season and late in games everyone knew what was coming and he faced 8 and 9 sometimes 11 in the box on those late game clock running series.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:56 pm to
ok? and LF split time with 3 other backs. As a backup, he had more carries than LF did on the year. And less yards too.

Henry: 202/990 4.9 ypc
LF: 187/1034 5.53 ypc

So, again, how were his stats in big games last year?

Posted by Bmath
LA
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:58 pm to
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Tra Carson had more yards with 6 less carries with a far worse offensive line.

The offensive line excuse is getting a little old.


Are you serious? TAMU is not a major running threat. The transitive property of college football doesn't really work.

For example, I can point out that Henry and Fournette only gained ~90 yds each against Arkansas. That can then be painted in different ways. Was Fournette held to <100 yds, or did he only rush for 90 yds in a game where they had to throw the ball a lot? Teams play differently vs various opponents depending on how the matchup looks. This is one of the many reasons teams get beat by a program that was beat by a squad that they destroyed. Gameplans also shift based on turnovers, deficits, or other strategies. Hence why you rarely see running backs put up consistent numbers.

Posted by BearBait09
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:00 am to
you just used yards/game to rank defenses.

sit down and shut up. adults are talking.
Posted by Bmath
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:01 am to
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Not true at all. For several games Henry didn't even have a reliable back up to rest him. Early we had no passing game anyone respected, still don't really. Late in the season and late in games everyone knew what was coming and he faced 8 and 9 sometimes 11 in the box on those late game clock running series.


That's nearly identical to Fournettes situation. Alabama was the one team that could stack the box and actually stop him. The more with less comment really referred to playing one less game.
Posted by cajunbama
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:01 am to
Nah, it was 20 something I think. And a W. How many yards booger end up with in his follow up to being emasculated on national TV? Henry ran for over 200 the day booger lost to Arkie.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:10 am to
Here's why one guy is in NYC this weekend and one isn't:

YPP per game in November

DH 7.475
LF 4.8

Bama 4-0
LSU 1-3

Game over
Posted by cajunbama
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:14 am to
Booger didn't have a back up? He had two in Guise and the sophomore from the Westbank, Williams I think.



And Alabama absolutely didn't stack the box against anyone this year.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:15 am to
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Henry ran for over 200 the day booger lost to Arkie.


Henry averaged 3.5 YPC vs Arkansas. Fournette 4.8



Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:18 am to
Henry W in October
Booger L in November less than 100 one weak after being sodomized on national TV.

Sorry not sorry Henry is a better college RB than booger. Booger can't come close to Henry's vision and other intangibles.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:19 am to
You've said booger about 200 times tonight and no one has bit.

Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:20 am to
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Here's why one guy is in NYC this weekend and one isn't: YPP per game in November DH 7.475 LF 4.8 Bama 4-0 LSU 1-3 Game over



When his team needed him the most, against the teams that matter most, and in the season when it mattered most.

Goodnight corny dogs.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 12:24 am to
It's been real.
Posted by YouDontKnowBro
Los Angeles
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:03 am to
Henry is slow. Down vote me please.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:05 am to
Agreed- which means what have they done up until now. What the stats show is Fournette was better as a freshman and sophomore, and it's not even close. He currently has 512 total yards less than Henry in 15 less games. Fournette has had one poor game this year against top rushing defense. Henry also had a stellar 24 yd performance against a worse LSU team last year. Never heard national media suggesting Henry sit out his junior season to avoid injury either.

Henrys name wasn't even seriously mentioned until 7 games into the season. He is a Heisman finalist because LF had a terrible game at the back end of the season and Nick Chubb got injured. Period. He's a great running back, no doubt, but nobody aside from Bama fans thinks he's better overall than Fournette.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 1:09 am to
Holy shite, this thread is still alive?
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