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re: I wonder if LSU wishes they hadn't let Lacy get away.

Posted on 4/17/11 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/17/11 at 8:29 pm to
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So you are saying they pumped Ware and his 4.71 then as well....


They miss high and low, I thought that was obvious. Julio and PP7 in the 4.4-4.5 range? Yeah right. Try low 4.3s.. they're just flat inaccurate.

Another good example -- Taylor Mays, listed at 4.59 by Rivals. He runs it in the low 4.3s
This post was edited on 4/17/11 at 8:34 pm
Posted by fightingsaint3
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/17/11 at 8:31 pm to
Spencer Ware> Trent Richardson. Just watch this year. Most of ya'll will laugh at me. But it's the truth.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/17/11 at 8:32 pm to
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Julio and PP7 in the 4.4-4.5 range?


Julio ran a 4.39 with a broken foot at combine (4.48 High School)
Peterson a 4.34 time (High School 4.4)

I would bet coming out of high school without the one on one training they had they would be a step slower..... Especially when for past 2 months they had been training specifically for the combine and combine like drills.....
This post was edited on 4/17/11 at 8:34 pm
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 4/17/11 at 8:32 pm to
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Spencer Ware> Trent Richardson.


In baseball?

That's the only thing Ware will ever be better than T-Rich at...
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 4/17/11 at 8:35 pm to
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Julio ran a 4.39 with a broken foot at combine (4.48 High School)
Peterson a 4.34 time (High School 4.4)

I would bet coming out of high school without the one on one training they had they would be a step slower..... Especially when for past 2 months they had been training especially for the combine and combine like drills.....


Or they are just inaccurate. Which is much more likely. People don't generally get much faster through their college career. Being in and out of athletics my entire life I can assure you that highschool 40 times are a crock of shite.. and that sentiment is shared by just about everyone everywhere.

Why did you intentionally leave off the 4.47 on PP7s 40 time? There's an enormous difference between 4.40 and 4.47, it's roughly the difference between good speed and elite speed.
This post was edited on 4/17/11 at 8:38 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 4/17/11 at 8:36 pm to
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In baseball?

That's the only thing Ware will ever be better than T-Rich at...



Agreed. He may be Richardsons equal at RB one day, but better? Doubtful. As I said earlier.. he may put up better stats/numbers, etc. But that doesn't tell the entire story in any way.
This post was edited on 4/17/11 at 8:37 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/17/11 at 8:42 pm to
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Or they are just inaccurate. Which is much more likely. People don't generally get much faster through their college career.
or the individuals trained specifically for the 40 to run it faster....

quote:

Why did you intentionally leave off the 4.47 on PP7s 40 time?



4.47
4.4
is this where you say Rivals >>>> Scout
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 4/17/11 at 8:47 pm to
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4.47
4.4
is this where you say Rivals >>>> Scout


Well everyone else was using Rivals

We'll have to agree to disagree.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 4/17/11 at 8:48 pm to
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Another good example -- Taylor Mays, listed at 4.59 by Rivals. He runs it in the low 4.3s


Taylor Mays ran a 4.43 at the combine (unofficial was 4.24) Rivals had him a 4.59.... again players are working out specifically for the combine to improve their numbers.... While I don't think you can shave 3/4 seconds off your time, a second to a second and half could feasibly be shaved off ones time.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 4/17/11 at 8:50 pm to
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Taylor Mays ran a 4.43 at the combine (unofficial was 4.24) Rivals had him a 4.59.... again players are working out specifically for the combine to improve their numbers.... While I don't think you can shave 3/4 seconds off your time, a second to a second and half could feasibly be shaved off ones time


He ran an unofficial 4.24 but the large variance in the different times raised some serious questions. They showed a frame by frame of him running with another guy (sub 4.3 guy) and determined that a mistake was made.
Posted by Dennis4LSU
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2008
4483 posts
Posted on 4/17/11 at 9:14 pm to
quote:


we have 4 RB that could start for any team in the country




Except Alabama.
wrong including Alabama
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Member since Nov 2009
35707 posts
Posted on 4/17/11 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

wrong including Alabama


Spencer Ware could probably start over Will Lowery at Dime, but that's probably about it...
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 4/17/11 at 9:57 pm to
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Spencer Ware could probably start over Will Lowery at Dime, but that's probably about it...


I don't think he is saying that we have 4 running backs that would start over your top-4 running backs.. (I hope not at least..)

I think he's trying to say that if Alabama had our 4 running backs.. but did not have there current roster, ours would be starters at Alabama and there wouldn't be a drop-off in talent.

I hope that's what he is trying to say
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/17/11 at 10:14 pm to
quote:



Jordan Jefferson > AJ McCarron + Sims combined


Seeing as Jordan Jefferson is a senior, your argument sucks.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/17/11 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

Eddie Lacy 56-411 5 TDs 7.2 YPC

Spencer Ware 24-175 1 TD 7.3 YPC



so because yalls top 2 running backs had injury issues, lacy is the better running back.

Similar YPC numbers except Ware's came against better competition (not San Jose State and Georgia State)

The answer to this, at least from the fans perspective, is NO
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 4/17/11 at 11:03 pm to
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quote:


Jordan Jefferson > AJ McCarron + Sims combined


Seeing as Jordan Jefferson is a senior, your argument sucks.


If it's a true statement next year, I don't care what JJ is.

Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35707 posts
Posted on 4/17/11 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

Ware's came against better competition


So McNeese State and A&M are better? Those are the only 2 games he got 5 or more carries.

Lacy had 5 or more carries in 2 games in which he was the 3rd string back(both Ingram and T-Rich played).

Duke and Michigan State > McNeese State and A&M

Posted by PEABODY32
Everywhere
Member since Feb 2011
1184 posts
Posted on 4/17/11 at 11:12 pm to
Agree 1000 times
Posted by BamaFan89
T-Town
Member since Dec 2009
19302 posts
Posted on 4/17/11 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

Similar YPC numbers except Ware's came against better competition


Yeah, La-Monroe and McNeese State were powerhouses last year

Ware had one good game against A&M and all of a sudden he played against better competition.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293774 posts
Posted on 4/17/11 at 11:19 pm to
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If you guys don't wish that now.... you will after this season.


I wouldn't trade Ford or Ware for Lacy. Not a chance.
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