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re: Hypothetical: do you pick Texas over 1 loss Bama and 1 loss UGA?
Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:36 pm to 19
Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:36 pm to 19
Check out Texas "wins" this year. They've been living on the edge all season. No impressive blowouts, and numerous close calls.
You have to beat the crap out of your opponents for the polls.
You have to beat the crap out of your opponents for the polls.
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Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:36 pm to BamaMamaof2
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That goes against everything that the committee was designed to do
This isn't true. They don't pick the best 4 teams based on the eye-test and never have.
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The selection committee ranks the teams based on the members’ evaluation of the teams’ performance on the field, using conference championships won, strength of schedule, head-to-head results, and comparison of results against common opponents to decide among teams that are comparable.
This is how they determine where to rank teams.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:38 pm to bamabonners
Honestly, it speaks to the 4 team flaw and any need to schedule elite tier OOC, especially in September. The 12 teamer will help (a bit)
Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:39 pm to BamaMamaof2
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4 best teams.
When are people gonna sack up and admit that when they say this they really mean:
"My team is on a hot streak/has more 5 star recruits therefore we'd kick your arse"
Best is very subjective
Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:40 pm to Sao
The twelve team playoff was inevitable because too much of a logjam at the top each year. Texas is likely on the outside looking in, because some teams are probably going undefeated.
Not that the situation bothers me. I will light up a big cigar when those dildos get left out
Not that the situation bothers me. I will light up a big cigar when those dildos get left out
Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:42 pm to BamaMamaof2
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You just said GA and Bama are better than Texas but you put Texas in due to a week 2 win. That goes against everything that the committee was designed to do, get the 4 best teams.
If GA and Bama are better than Texas, either one of them should go in above Texas. Unfortunately, the committee is all about the most deserving and inclusion now.
This is inaccurate.
They are supposed to pick the top 4 teams based on their on the field performances. Not based on an eye test of who they think would win a future matchup.
Head to head results play an important role in that when trying to decide between two teams with the same record.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:42 pm to ColoradoAg
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Not that the situation bothers me
that we are even close very clearly bothers you. you're in every single thread trying to speak Texas being left out into existence
Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:46 pm to Sao
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Honestly, it speaks to the 4 team flaw and any need to schedule elite tier OOC, especially in September. The 12 teamer will help (a bit)
Actually, Texas would gain a lot from their OOC elite game. They would lose out to either SEC champ without it. Since they played the game and gave Bama a loss, they will get selected over Bama for the last spot if both teams have 1-loss.
It might have been bad for Bama, but it was a huge positive for Texas.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:46 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
Wish it into existence? The PAC winner is definitely in barring an upset. The B1G is getting at LEAST one team in. FSU is in if they finish out undefeated. In question, but Norvell could coach circles around seven-win Steve.
Face it. You need some help because your performance on the field is anything but inspiring. How about all those close calls, and the loss to a mediocre OU team that won't even get back to the "championship" game for the B12.
Texas made their own bed with lackluster play if they don't get in.
Face it. You need some help because your performance on the field is anything but inspiring. How about all those close calls, and the loss to a mediocre OU team that won't even get back to the "championship" game for the B12.
Texas made their own bed with lackluster play if they don't get in.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:55 pm to ColoradoAg
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Texas made their own bed with lackluster play if they don't get in.
The only way Texas isn't in if the other 4 conference champs are undefeated (and/or Oregon wins with 1 loss and is ahead of Texas).
It could happen, but it has little to do with how they've played other than the comparison with Oregon. It has everything to do with their record and head to head results (with Bama).
People think the committee is a lot more complex than they are. The first ranking criteria is simply record and conference championship.
1 - Undefeated P5 teams (including ND) get in.
2 - 1-loss P5 champs get in
3 - l-loss P5 non-champs or undefeated G5's.
The primary criteria if you are in one of those groupings and have more teams than slots is head to head (this got cincy in over ND for group 3 in 2021).
After that comes things like how tough their schedule was or margins of victory. It't only a factor for a tiebreaker if head to head is not available. That means it's only an issue for Texas if they are compared to a 1-loss Oregon. Not a 1-loss Bama, because head to head will factor most (just like it did with ND/Cincy).
Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:57 pm to bamabonners
We beat you at your own house.
We absolutely are going over a one loss Alabama.
We absolutely are going over a one loss Alabama.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:57 pm to bamabonners
Texas’ best win is Bama.
Their next best win will be a rank #20 team.
Bama (if they beat UGA) will have a win over #1, 12, 15.
Their next best win will be a rank #20 team.
Bama (if they beat UGA) will have a win over #1, 12, 15.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:58 pm to DawginSC
UGA wins the SEC, undefeated
Doesn't matter which of Oregon or WA wins down the stretch. Both have much more impressive resumes
B1G winner gets in, because they will be undefeated as well
FSU gets in if they finish undefeated.
Texas NEEDS FSU or UGA to lose to have a "chance" at getting in. But seriously, their SoS takes a huge nosedive the next two weeks. Both Tech and OkSU are garbage teams.
Doesn't matter which of Oregon or WA wins down the stretch. Both have much more impressive resumes
B1G winner gets in, because they will be undefeated as well
FSU gets in if they finish undefeated.
Texas NEEDS FSU or UGA to lose to have a "chance" at getting in. But seriously, their SoS takes a huge nosedive the next two weeks. Both Tech and OkSU are garbage teams.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:04 pm to ColoradoAg
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Texas NEEDS FSU or UGA to lose to have a "chance" at getting in. But seriously, their SoS takes a huge nosedive the next two weeks. Both Tech and OkSU are garbage teams.
This is similar to Bama needing FSU or Texas to lose to get in. The SOS really doesn't matter at all except in a case where they're being compared to another 1-loss conference champ they haven't beaten head to head.
The only time it would matter is with Oregon (or I suppose FSU if FSU were to lose to UF then win the ACC).
With every other team, how they've played and who they've played means absolutely nothing. It's just about record and head to head.
If FSU's QB getting hurt causes them a loss in the next two weeks, Texas is then in control of the #4 playoff spot.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:07 pm to DawginSC
FSU isn't just the QB. We will see, because Mertz was hurt as well. FU/FSU will be worth watching this year.
I will say it is extremely unlikely that the loser of the SEC championship gets in this year. Too many top teams outside of the SEC.
I will say it is extremely unlikely that the loser of the SEC championship gets in this year. Too many top teams outside of the SEC.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:11 pm to bamabonners
There's a reason I have 3 separate trips booked for New Years Day bowl games depending on where Texas ends up.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:13 pm to father2sons
If Bama wins, they're in.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:16 pm to bamabonners
I don't see how you can put Bama over Texas or Georgia over Bama in that scenario. I would probably pick Texas 3rd out of those in a power rating, but this should be based on resume not just who we think is a better team.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:16 pm to father2sons
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Bama (if they beat UGA) will have a win over #1, 12, 15.
which would likely win the argument for Alabama, had they not played Texas this year.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:17 pm to hogcard1964
If Bama wins, and is in then it naturally follows that Texas is out. I'm confused ...
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