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re: How is Mark Richt still the HC at UGA?
Posted on 6/21/15 at 5:16 pm to Irons Puppet
Posted on 6/21/15 at 5:16 pm to Irons Puppet
Like I said he hated Bockrath. Bockrath was gone when Price was fired.
He was a NC winning coach that had an idiot AD forced on him, he was 61, and he didn't have anything left to prove and didn't want to put up with Bockrath.
He was a NC winning coach that had an idiot AD forced on him, he was 61, and he didn't have anything left to prove and didn't want to put up with Bockrath.
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 5:25 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Tennessee has been terrible since 2005.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 5:27 pm to Korin
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Well actually this proves that firing Richt after the 2010 season wouldn't have been a good idea since y'all have had bad coaching since Fat Phil.
Well we had 3 terrible years of recruiting and coaching hires by Fulmer from 06-08. If we fire Fulmer after 05 the job is more attractive and obviously we don't end up with Kiffin.
Keeping Fulmer as long as we did is what started us down the spiral we are still on today.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 5:27 pm to Jagd Tiger
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not unreasonable, but he has been consistently in the 10-15 recruiting range, so he has brought in enough talent. Watching Bobo and Grantham struggle is also on him, he's the desk where the buck stops. What tools did he need? Indoor practice? Yea not buying that, must be something else.
Agree again but sometimes it's just the little things where lack of Univ. support can cause you grief...
One for instance, we had 3 days of tropical type rain the week of the 2012 SECCG, UGA had to work out outdoors on Tues., bussed the 60+ miles to Suwanee to work out at the Falcons facility on Wed. & just had a walkthru in our 20yd closet on Thur...
Did it hurt?? Who knows? For sure didn't help tho disrupting your reg weekly practice schedule...
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 6/21/15 at 5:29 pm to gatorhata9
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Is it really in better shape? Y'all have been through 3 coaches since and are begging for an 8 win season.
Tennessee's program is not in good shape right now and my point is the downfall started because we let a very mediocre coach who had not won anything in 10 years hang on too long.
UGA looks to be following that blueprint as well. If losing to the SEC West rep in ATL and making Capital One Bowls is your goal, Richt is your man. I think UGA's program has a much higher ceiling though.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 5:33 pm to Jagd Tiger
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so he has brought in enough talent
That's enough talent for an elite coach to win championships. He's not an elite coach. He's produced to about where he should based on the talent that he's brought in.
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Watching Bobo and Grantham struggle is also on him
Grantham obviously sucked. Bobo flourished. He was a record breaking OC and was plucked away to be the HC at Colorado State.
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What tools did he need? Indoor practice? Yea not buying that, must be something else.
An IPF is more significant in recruiting than it is in actual practical usage. Other coaches have consistently been pointing out that we don't have one to recruits. Whether or not you buy it, it does make a difference.
Other tools would be an expanded recruiting budget (we were in the bottom half of the conference in that area), a larger support staff (we've hired like 4 million "analysts" this offseason), as well as upgraded facilities.
You can look at a top tier SEC program like a political campaign. The more money you put in to it, the better results you are going to have. It's an arms race and anyone that tells you different is lying or stupid.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 5:35 pm to dallasga6
Yea when Mizzou practices inside, it's typically for lighting storm reasons..
since our game field turf drains so well, wet weather isn't the issue it once was.
I haven't seen the weight room in Athens but the Stadium and campus in general aren't lacking much at all.
I listen to a lot of Richts game week interviews and am impressed with the amount of thought and care he puts into answering each question. I like most of what he has to say, he's a thoughtful guy for sure.
But it's SEC football, only one thing counts at the end of the day, extra space in the trophy case.
since our game field turf drains so well, wet weather isn't the issue it once was.
I haven't seen the weight room in Athens but the Stadium and campus in general aren't lacking much at all.
I listen to a lot of Richts game week interviews and am impressed with the amount of thought and care he puts into answering each question. I like most of what he has to say, he's a thoughtful guy for sure.
But it's SEC football, only one thing counts at the end of the day, extra space in the trophy case.
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 6/21/15 at 5:36 pm to volfan30
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Tennessee's program is not in good shape right now and my point is the downfall started because we let a very mediocre coach who had not won anything in 10 years hang on too long.
Yea but you still haven't found a coach that has won you anything since. It's not like y'all would have landed Harbaugh if you fired Fulmer a few years earlier.
And your point to say we should have fired him in 2010 is kind of irrelevant because we won 11 and 12 respectively the next 2 seasons. Not exactly a coach on the slide like Fulmer...
Posted on 6/21/15 at 5:44 pm to volfan30
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If we fire Fulmer after 05 the job is more attractive and obviously we don't end up with Kiffin.
These were all of the the New/Big/Hot FBS hires for 2006 & where they went... Which ones do you think woulda taken UT to the promised land? Or give me another name who woulda came to UT after the '05 season
Chris Petersen-BSU...13-0... he was/is/always will be a West Coast guy...
Turner Gill-Buffalo...2-10
Dan Hawkins-Colorado...2-10
Dennis Erickson-Idaho...4-8
Ron Prince- K. St....7-6
Rick Stockstill-MTSU...7-6
Pat Fitzgerald-NWU...4-8
Todd Graham-Rice...7-6
Chuck Long-SDSU...3-9
Al Golden-Temple...1-11
Bret Bielema-Wisc.12-1... groomed to take over this job...
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 6/21/15 at 5:49 pm to dallasga6
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Pat Fitzgerald-NWU...4-8
Will never leave.
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Turner Gill-Buffalo...2-10
We saw how that "hot name" turned out.
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Todd Graham-Rice...7-6
Would have been a solid hire, IMO. Not a southeast guy so recruiting may have been an issue.
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Al Golden-Temple...1-11
lol
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Dan Hawkins-Colorado...2-10
lol
Posted on 6/21/15 at 5:57 pm to gatorhata9
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lol
It's never as easy as "just fire the motherfricker"...
All but 2 of those coaches sucked arse, the rest were avg. or way below...
Posted on 6/21/15 at 6:07 pm to dallasga6
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It's never as easy as "just fire the motherfricker"...
That's what we've been trying to explain. You can fire a guy like Richt, but you fricking better have a home run hire lined up and ready to win. There isn't anyone like that out there right now. Some dude's just don't get it.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 8:31 pm to Arksulli
Some fans claim 12-0 would more than make up for 0-12. I don't agree.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 8:50 pm to djsdawg
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Many players drafted but only one made a play that changed the whole momentum of 2 huge games at the end of the yr. Maybe lsu wins without those plays but it would have been far from a guarantee.
I'd get what your saying if those games were close. They were blowouts. I realize it was close for a little while, but tyrann scoring a touchdown doesn't translate to 42-10 and 41-17. As the game went on LSUs O-line made there arse quit. I bet without Mathieu LSU still would have been 13-0. Our most dominating win (in my opinion) was without him and Ron Brooks (Tyranns backup) had a pick six and a touchdown saving pass defense.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:01 pm to mattytiger123
I think you discount the impact of momentum in football. What happens after a big play can turn a close game into a blowout, and I happenS every year. Big diff between 10-0 halftime and 10-7 halftime Imo.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:35 pm to dallasga6
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Old school loyal guys like CMR with ethics, principles & ideals about helping develop teenagers into good young men who will integrate into society after their career is over
WTF? You seem to live in a fantasy-land. Mark Richt is widely known as a slack disciplinarian who screws up as many men as he "helps" develop.
Letting people run wild, with no checks on their behavior, and then suspending them and removing them from the team when they invariably screw up isn't exactly helping them develop from babies into good young men.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:37 pm to Alert Mi
Sorry bud but you are an admitted alter. Time to reveal yourself.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:38 pm to LaBornNRaised
It is simple, moral victories. Thats all that matters at UGA.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:39 pm to djsdawg
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Sorry bud but you are an admitted alter. Time to reveal yourself.
It's Crimson Chin. They're the only ones who use "AUneck."
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:40 pm to DawgGONIT
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DawgGONIT
And this is definitely auburnphan.
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