re: How does Saban view the Bama fanbase?

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Exactly. Since 2003, UA has made an effort to cater to improving stats to rank higher. Many of the measurables used are irrelevant fluff, but UA invests in the fluff to help them rank higher. It is nothing more and nothing less including the amount UA pays merit scholars to come to UA.

UA needs the fluff, but in the real world a bama degree pays a lot less than an AU degree overall.

Nice explanation for the uninformed BTW.

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Uniformed? LOL Auburn offers a more lucrative package to merit scholars than Alabama does Quick. Head over to ITAT to get your talking points

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Nope. I'm cool. I understand those things as well unlike most gumps who like to tout them to make them feel better about bama.

Bama has never really been that close to AU as a university. It has always been a clear second tier option behind AU for either the less qualified individuals or those that car more about football than their degree (in general).

UA is improving, but the gap is still there. Everyone knows this as well and it is not even a question that AU has been the better academic institution for many many decades.

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Despite the fact that virtually nothing says this

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LOL Auburn offers a more lucrative package to merit scholars than Alabama does Quick

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Umm, did you actually compare the two. not that it matters

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StopRobot

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so you didnt actually read and compare

Auburn fans first arguing that it has harder admission requirements than Alabama. It doesn't.

Auburn fans then arguing that they have a lower acceptance rate. They don't.

Auburn fans arguing that every possible ranking has Auburn ahead of Alabama. USNWR (the ranking that literally every major school goes by) has Auburn behind Alabama.

Auburn fans argue that Alabama caters to these rankings. The catering would be putting more money into research, infrastructure, degree integrity and strength, faculty to student ratios, admission standards, number of Merit Scholars and amazing students. You know, basically all the things that help make a college stronger and their degree better.

All I know is my high school days allowed me to get a full ride to Alabama from out of state. My degree from Alabama allowed me to get into three medical schools (M.D. not D.O.) when it was all said and done. The tools at Alabama (i.e. the ease of which I could get involved with research, the actual medical knowledge I gained from my advisers getting me into various clinical volunteer positions around the community) helped me get to where I am today.

Alabama isn't second rate in the slightest. Saban literally was the best investment the college has ever made.

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Has anyone ever admitted they were wrong on a message board?

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I guess you wont. I thought you might, but you followed up with another post that showed you didnt

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Tuition - Full at both schoolsOne school allows 5 years the other 4
Housing - one year paid at both schools
Stipend - AU $4k UA $3,500incorrect, One school allows up to $3500 per year, the other is up to $2000 per year
Tech expense - AU $1k UA iPad
Enrichment Experience - AU $2,500 UA $2,000

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now feel free to tell me that an extra year of tuition and and extra $1500 per year is less than auburn

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• University stipend for four years at $4,000 to $8,000 ($1,000 to $2,000 per year), depending on eligibility as determined by National Merit Scholarship Corporation and financial need as determined through completion of the Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA).

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Basically you will get a max of $4k-$8k, or you will get ZERO from AU if you do not need financial assistance. And that is after your tution and room and board is already paid for.

My guess is most do not qualify for any additional stipend at AU unless their family is pretty poor. While bama will pay an extra $17,500 gauranteed to come to their school for 5 years.

Just another example of why gumps are dumb when they tout merit scholars when bama has to pay them so much to even consider bama.

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Its a tough crowd to play to and to perform up to their expectations. Bama fans expect to win a title every year no matter how improbable it may seem...this is the same fanbase who wanted Bryant fired when he had a couple of down years in 68, 69, and 70.

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This is complete nonsense and every other fanbase screaming it all the time doesn't make it accurate.

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now feel free to tell me that an extra year of tuition and and extra $1500 per year is less than auburn

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You are correct on the 4 vs 5 years. read the stipend at UA as the total stipend amount of $3,500 and the total value cannot exceed $3,500 . I see what you are saying because it also reads "per year".