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Posted on 5/28/13 at 7:59 pm to LSUNV
Been a member of this site for a long while (2008), and can't help but see "Texas this" and "Texas that" on this site by aggies. It's constant.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 8:02 pm to texashorn
They have gotten much better. Most of them get pissed when Texas is brought up
Posted on 5/28/13 at 8:08 pm to texashorn
East renovation & new South side being built are to be done after 2013 season (2014 season capacity will be ~109,000). West side to be town down and rebuilt after 2014 season.
2015 to be first season in completed stadium. Capacity 102,500
2015 to be first season in completed stadium. Capacity 102,500
Posted on 5/28/13 at 8:11 pm to Herman Frisco
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TA&M voted with their feet. Best move they will ever make.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 8:12 pm to LSUNV
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How much will the project cost and how will it be funded?
The total cost of Kyle Field Redevelopment is $450 million. 51 percent will be funded by annual seat licenses, 27 percent will be funded by Kyle Field Campaign gifts, 17 percent will be funded by Texas A&M students and 5 percent will be funded by the local government agencies.
But back to this...
This link (official) indicates that only 1/4 (or more than $100 million) is from up-front or long-term (like estate planning or life insurance) donations. The rest is from future revenue.
Construction companies don't build based on "future revenue." They get paid by bonds that are then paid off by future revenue, i.e. "debt."
https://kylefield.com/faq
Posted on 5/28/13 at 8:21 pm to texashorn
- you were investigated by the NCAA in 1982-1983 for the period 1977-1979
- you were found guilty but no penalties were assessed for that investigation
- you were placed on NCAA probation in 1983
- SMU was given the death penalty in 1985 in an effort to clean up the SWC
- The DMN ran an expose on an ongoing widespread horn pay-for-play scheme in March 1986
- you were investigated by the NCAA in 1987
- you were found guilty of paying players between 1977 and 1987
- Incoming head coach David McWilliams (a former assistant) was specifically listed in the report as paying athletes ("McWilliams, 44, is mentioned with others as providing cash for athletes or arranging for athletes to receive money, some of which was repaid." - LA Times, 03-24-87)
- After being found guilty of directly paying players (including coach involvement) in a widespread and completely uncontrolled manner over multiple years and involving numerous players and boosters, before, after and during an NCAA investigation, Texas had its incoming signee limit reduced by 5 for one calendar year in 1988
My favorite part - having read the quotes so we know what this was:
- you were found guilty but no penalties were assessed for that investigation
- you were placed on NCAA probation in 1983
- SMU was given the death penalty in 1985 in an effort to clean up the SWC
- The DMN ran an expose on an ongoing widespread horn pay-for-play scheme in March 1986
- you were investigated by the NCAA in 1987
- you were found guilty of paying players between 1977 and 1987
- Incoming head coach David McWilliams (a former assistant) was specifically listed in the report as paying athletes ("McWilliams, 44, is mentioned with others as providing cash for athletes or arranging for athletes to receive money, some of which was repaid." - LA Times, 03-24-87)
- After being found guilty of directly paying players (including coach involvement) in a widespread and completely uncontrolled manner over multiple years and involving numerous players and boosters, before, after and during an NCAA investigation, Texas had its incoming signee limit reduced by 5 for one calendar year in 1988
My favorite part - having read the quotes so we know what this was:
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Athletic Director DeLoss Dodds characterized the listed violations as minor.
This post was edited on 5/28/13 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 5/28/13 at 8:22 pm to texashorn
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The total cost of Kyle Field Redevelopment is $450 million. 51 percent will be funded by annual seat licenses, 27 percent will be funded by Kyle Field Campaign gifts, 17 percent will be funded by Texas A&M students and 5 percent will be funded by the local government agencies.
Sounds like in that 51% is the PSL's and suites.
The students portion is about $5MM/yr for 30 years
Posted on 5/28/13 at 8:41 pm to Bamatab
You're a ghey
Posted on 5/28/13 at 8:51 pm to tmc94
this teasip fool got a steel-toe up his gunt
Posted on 5/28/13 at 8:53 pm to tmc94
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Athletic Director DeLoss Dodds characterized the listed violations as minor.
holy hell
Posted on 5/28/13 at 9:09 pm to Gray Tiger
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They STILl didn't get called for holding.
LSU didn't get called for pass interference either.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 9:29 pm to plutonium55
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Been a member of this site for a long while (2008), and can't help but see "Texas this" and "Texas that" on this site by aggies. It's constant.
Yeah and have you looked at ShaggyBevo lately??? Innumerable patronizing "Aggy" posts..
Hypocrite..
The Big "12" is now an irrelevant wasteland. Apart from Texas vs OU - who gives a shite.
Ya'll are reaping what you sewed. Good riddance!
Posted on 5/28/13 at 9:54 pm to ohiovol
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This is a silly question. Bama does not 'run' the SEC.
It sure does get implied (or even outright said) on this site a whole heck of a lot. Apparently Bama/REC runs the SEC office. I guess the proof of that is that the SEC office is in Birmingham or something. I don't know, I'm still trying to figure it out.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 9:56 pm to Summer of George
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You're a ghey
Posted on 5/28/13 at 10:10 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Pony Excess has several moments alluding to their control but none that straight up go out and say it really from what I remember
That's what I was referring to. It's not a direct allusion to the fudgepackers, but given the circumstances, etc. it's not hard to make that conclusion. I could be wrong.
Here is the link to Pony Express.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 10:12 pm to Bamatab
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This is a silly question. Bama does not 'run' the SEC.
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It sure does get implied (or even outright said) on this site a whole heck of a lot.
Not taking their side, but there is some truth to this. Live in Nashville and our sports talk relative to SEC is pretty balanced because we have a large contingent of fans from numerous SEC schools. All the talk today was that Slive lets Saban run the conference. It wasn't a Bama thing or even really a negative, they just had a bunch of folks on that all agreed that Slive respects Saban, Saban can say things that Slive likes without it putting Slive in a corner, and Slive has pretty much trusted Saban with being the vocal mouthpiece for the SEC.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 10:56 pm to tmc94
Now we're cookin' with cooking oil, tmc94. I'm glad you brought up the David McWilliams "violations." I've been waiting for this.
Let's look closer at them, directly from the NCAA infractions report:
Now seriously, tmc94, that's some piddly shite right there. Violations, yes. But piddly shite.
Compare that to a slush fund at SMU that ran into the tens of thousands, and A&M coaches showing up in the yard with new cars.
Ten or 20 dollars here and there, most (if not all) repaid. Small bail bonds, an airline flight and bus fare to go home (I think it was for a funeral)... all repaid.
Get real.
Let's look closer at them, directly from the NCAA infractions report:
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By his ignorance of some NCAA rules and by ignoring others, an assistant football coach was involved in several violations.
Specifically, he: (a) provided small amounts of cash (up to $20) to a student-athlete over
the course of the young man's enrollment (1983-1986), cash that was later
repaid upon request;
(b) loaned a student-athlete $200 to pay bail bond, a loan that was repaid;
BOOSTER (c) failed to convey the proper rules interpretations to a representative of the university's athletics interests, which caused the
representative (who was prepared to abide by the rules) to contact a prospective student-athlete in person and to assist the prospect in obtaining
employment with his firm prior to the young man's graduation from high school and before the young man signed his letter of intent, and
(d) signed the young man to a National Letter of Intent during an improper recruiting contact at
the young man's high school. [NCAA Constitution 3-1-(g)-(5) and Bylaws 1-1-
(b)-(2), 1-2-(a)-(4) and 1-2-(b)]
(I think this one is David McWilliams)
5. During the period January 1982 to December 1984, a former assistant football coach (the present head football coach), two former
assistant football coaches and a former recruiting coordinator (present
assistant director of athletics) arranged for or provided several studentathletes
with various amounts of cash for the young men's personal use.
Further, on several of these occasions, the student-athletes repaid the money.
Specifically:
a. Subsequent to the 1980 Bluebonnet Bowl, an assistant coach provided a student-athlete a small amount of cash to purchase a bus
ticket from Austin to the young man's home town.
b. During the spring of 1982, an assistant coach arranged for a member of the athletics department business office to provide a student athlete
with at least $50 cash to pay the cost of a fine the young man owed to the university.
c. During the 1984 football season, an assistant coach provided a student-athlete approximately $10 to $20 cash to purchase gasoline for the young man's trip to his home; further, this money was repaid to the coach.
d. On two occasions, the recruiting coordinator gave cash to a student-athlete for miscellaneous purposes. Specifically, during the
1981-82 academic year, the young man was given approximately $20 cash, and during the 1983-84 academic year, the young man received $40 cash.
e. In December 1983, the recruiting coordinator paid $56 cash on a bail bond for a student-athlete, cash that the young man repaid the
following week.
f. On one occasion during the fall of 1984, an assistant coach gave $20 to a student-athlete in order for the young man to purchase a
one-way airline ticket (cost of $36) between Austin and his home; further, this money was repaid to the coach.
g. During the fall of 1983, the recruiting coordinator provided a loan of approximately $21.70 to a student-athlete in order for the
young man to travel home; further, the loan was repaid to the recruiting coordinator. [NCAA Constitution 3-1-(g)-(5), 3-1-(h) and 3-4-(a)]
Now seriously, tmc94, that's some piddly shite right there. Violations, yes. But piddly shite.
Compare that to a slush fund at SMU that ran into the tens of thousands, and A&M coaches showing up in the yard with new cars.
Ten or 20 dollars here and there, most (if not all) repaid. Small bail bonds, an airline flight and bus fare to go home (I think it was for a funeral)... all repaid.
Get real.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 11:40 pm to texashorn
A&M being "in debt" is definitely the #1 talking point that tu fans like jerking off to. Its been beaten into the ground, several years and one athletic director and president later.
I guess the fact that you have to go to that far to the bottom of the barrel to find your favorite aggy story tells us all we need to know
I guess the fact that you have to go to that far to the bottom of the barrel to find your favorite aggy story tells us all we need to know
Posted on 5/28/13 at 11:57 pm to texashorn
The fact that the NCAA report ignored this doesn't make your point unless you've flipped sides in this discussion. The NCAA whitewashed the horns violations on multiple occasions.
This pay-for-play system was probably as egregious as anything but SMU because it covered an extended period, under the eyes of multiple coaches and ADs. The DMN only interviewed 28 players (all former players btw). 24 of them admitted they took money. It's full on professional football over a 10-year period while under NCAA investigation. And the cheating continued unabashed even after the NCAA handed out the death penalty to SMU. That takes a pretty big set of balls or it was pretty well-known that the fix was in.
And after being caught red-handed: wrist slap
This pay-for-play system was probably as egregious as anything but SMU because it covered an extended period, under the eyes of multiple coaches and ADs. The DMN only interviewed 28 players (all former players btw). 24 of them admitted they took money. It's full on professional football over a 10-year period while under NCAA investigation. And the cheating continued unabashed even after the NCAA handed out the death penalty to SMU. That takes a pretty big set of balls or it was pretty well-known that the fix was in.
And after being caught red-handed: wrist slap
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