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re: How does Bama compare with tu in running a conference?
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:35 pm to texashorn
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:35 pm to texashorn
Found guilty? Or just straight player quotes?
Because I don't really give a shite about the report. The players were pretty honest that they were paid for play both times. There is even direct quotes from players going back to the 60s but the NCAA couldn't investigate that. I'll go ahead and take direct quotes from multiple players as evidence. You can keep reading your whitewashed reports
Because I don't really give a shite about the report. The players were pretty honest that they were paid for play both times. There is even direct quotes from players going back to the 60s but the NCAA couldn't investigate that. I'll go ahead and take direct quotes from multiple players as evidence. You can keep reading your whitewashed reports

Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:37 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Y'all are both manipulative and such, but tu was a lot more honest about it. Alabama sort of operates in the shadows a bit more. tu, much like with the Pac-16 deal, tries to negotiate and operate on the assumption that they will get everything they want, and it won't matter what anyone else wants. Bama seems to know that the rest of the conference thinks they are snakes, so they are constantly in spin control and denial. Different animals.
This is a fantastic post.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:37 pm to gnarkill1529
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you see bama as crooked...I see a championship caliber team. its all about perspective
I was commenting on the jest of the aTm responses. Typical, another blind Bama fan.

Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:44 pm to texashorn
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And yes, there were others who voted with Texas on previous revenue-sharing formulas... Nebraska and Texas A&M included. You know, the ones who bitched and moaned about unequal revenue while leaving.
Dr Loftin never directly voted for unequal revenue sharing. After it was clear equal revenue sharing was not an option he made the best deal possible for A&M.
Then Texas became an even worse business partner and a year later we left.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:49 pm to Big Kat
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Dr Loftin never directly voted for unequal revenue sharing.
And when did he (or any of his subordinates) vote against it?
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:51 pm to Big Kat
You have successfully managed to rustle some long horn jimmies

Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:54 pm to texashorn
TA&M voted with their feet.
Best move they will ever make.
Best move they will ever make.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:56 pm to Herman Frisco
A&M had no problem with unequal revenue sharing until Texas got a $300 million contract with ESPN.
Then they wanted equal revenue sharing. Why? Because they were broke, and then left the conference for financial reasons.
Then they wanted equal revenue sharing. Why? Because they were broke, and then left the conference for financial reasons.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 6:58 pm to texashorn
I would have left that shite stain of conference too.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 7:02 pm to LSUNV
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LSUNV
How old are you? 17?
Posted on 5/28/13 at 7:03 pm to texashorn
Are you gonna pull the $16MM interest free loan card now? Complete non-issue. It was $16 mil. Chump change these days.
While we are talking broke. How come Texas carries $260MM in debt? $160MM/yr revenue and you can't stay better than $260MM in the red. At least all that debt bought y'all a losing conference record the last 3 years. Money well spent IMO
While we are talking broke. How come Texas carries $260MM in debt? $160MM/yr revenue and you can't stay better than $260MM in the red. At least all that debt bought y'all a losing conference record the last 3 years. Money well spent IMO

This post was edited on 5/28/13 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 5/28/13 at 7:06 pm to texashorn
I am old enough to know that A&M and Missouri made the right move.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 7:08 pm to ezrulz
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Y'all are both manipulative and such, but tu was a lot more honest about it. Alabama sort of operates in the shadows a bit more. tu, much like with the Pac-16 deal, tries to negotiate and operate on the assumption that they will get everything they want, and it won't matter what anyone else wants. Bama seems to know that the rest of the conference thinks they are snakes, so they are constantly in spin control and denial. Different animals.
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This is a fantastic post.
Pretty damn accurate comparison.

Bama doesn't run shite though.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 7:09 pm to Big Kat
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Are you gonna pull the $16MM interest free loan card now?
No, I think the fact that the academic side took the checkbook away from the athletics side is damning enough.
You're about to plunge into more than half-a-billion dollars in debt to build a stadium.
The difference? Texas can pay its bills, A&M could not, hence "the loan."
Posted on 5/28/13 at 7:15 pm to texashorn
Showing your ignorance. The academics didn't take the checkbook. We were in the process of fundraising for capital projects. Dr Gates decided to front the money to expedite the process. It's interest free money. Who wouldn't take it?
And we are having a $450MM renovation to have the biggest and nicest collegiate stadium in Texas. But we will not have that in debt. 50% of the money has been donated up front and 25% more pledged to be donated. We'll still be carrying less debt than you guys with more to show for it.
Does it make me a bad person that I get sardonic pleasure knowing you haven't accepted your new reality yet? As long as A&M is in the SEC and Kevin Sumlin is the coach A&M is top dog in Texas. DWI
And we are having a $450MM renovation to have the biggest and nicest collegiate stadium in Texas. But we will not have that in debt. 50% of the money has been donated up front and 25% more pledged to be donated. We'll still be carrying less debt than you guys with more to show for it.
Does it make me a bad person that I get sardonic pleasure knowing you haven't accepted your new reality yet? As long as A&M is in the SEC and Kevin Sumlin is the coach A&M is top dog in Texas. DWI
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Posted on 5/28/13 at 7:18 pm to LSUNV
I don't know why people think this was a bad call.
Julio was clearly out of bounds.
Posted on 5/28/13 at 7:18 pm to LSUNV
LSUNV, I can't wait for Nov 23. So glad to have LSU on the schedule yearly again. You're the rival I've always personally wished A&M had instead of Texas. You guys know how to have fun 

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