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re: How Could Any Team But Bama Even Be Considered?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:37 pm to Golfer
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:37 pm to Golfer
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How could a rational human being think 3 wins over teams with a winning record is better than 8
Exactly. It depends on if the human voters take into account the one loss of each team or the total wins.
We already know the computers think more highly of Oklahoma State
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:37 pm to Eighteen
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Eighteen
The BCS was designed to always ensure a #1 vs #2 matchup and hopefully eliminate a #4 from jumping to #1 and winning a NC. You cannot measure how deserving a team is... can't do it. But, you can watch teams play and have a pretty sound idea of who the best team available is... and that is Alabama.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:38 pm to Eighteen
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It is about total body of work, it is up to each voter to determine what they value more (losses compared to wins, margin of victory, winning conference, etc)
Our l loss is way better than anyone elses and we beat everyone by at least 16.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:38 pm to Hoyt
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But, you can watch teams play and have a pretty sound idea of who the best team available is... and that is Alabama.
Oh so now its just watching and a "gut feeling" of who is better? Well then I think you being a Bama fan wouldn't be a good one to judge that because you would have a completely biased opinion
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:38 pm to Hoyt
As of now Oklahoma State is the only team that should be in the conversation if they beat Oklahoma convincingly. They would then have 4 top 25 wins which is the same as Alabama. A conference championship will make a difference in the voter's eyes. If OSU loses, then Bama has the best resume.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:38 pm to Eighteen
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Eighteen
You're right we don't deserve anything. You guys beat us. However, if the game is to pit the two best teams in the country against one another I cannot be convinced that Alabama is not the other team.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:39 pm to Hoyt
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I cannot be convinced that Alabama is not the other team.
Well yea but you are biased as shite in this regard
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:39 pm to rolltide1283
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Our l loss is way better than anyone elses and we beat everyone by at least 16.
And your opponents are for the most part garbage. So OSU's wins look better than Bama's.
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:40 pm to rolltide1283
But it is not only losses that one can compare, it is also wins. In that respect Bama and OSU will be equal if OSU defeats Oklahoma. If not Bama will have the best resume.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:40 pm to Hoyt
The objective portion of the BCS favors OSU. They'll be a conference champ who has played a more difficult schedule and has yet to lose to LSU. The SEC is terrible, and Bama hasn't done much OOC.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:40 pm to Eighteen
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you are biased as shite in this regard
Absolutely... but I've also watched the other schools play. Who is better than Alabama?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:41 pm to Golfer
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And your opponents are for the most part garbage.
Exactly. The SEC is waaaaayyy down this year from top to bottom, it is not yalls fault but it is the way it is
Bama also got extremely unlucky with the whole Penn State thing because they completely shite the bed the rest of the season
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:41 pm to Hoyt
same ole shite ya'll said about utah.
same was said about boise earlier this year, yet they beat UGA at HOME.
the fact that bama has 300+ lb linemen doesnt mean they can play with the likes of those speedy little teams like oregon.
7 out of 10, bama may win (my SEC bias). but all you need is 1 out of 10 to win the NC if that night that west coast team you just put down has their good night.
what we know is bama is not better than lsu. had its shot. who knows if a west coast team, or OSU or VT can beat lsu. any given night, you never know.
the arrogance on this board astonishes me sometime.
same was said about boise earlier this year, yet they beat UGA at HOME.
the fact that bama has 300+ lb linemen doesnt mean they can play with the likes of those speedy little teams like oregon.
7 out of 10, bama may win (my SEC bias). but all you need is 1 out of 10 to win the NC if that night that west coast team you just put down has their good night.
what we know is bama is not better than lsu. had its shot. who knows if a west coast team, or OSU or VT can beat lsu. any given night, you never know.
the arrogance on this board astonishes me sometime.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:42 pm to Eighteen
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The SEC is waaaaayyy down this year from top to bottom
Agreed. However, a "waaaaayyy down" SEC is still a more difficult conference than the Pac 12 and the Big 12... and we ALL know the ACC is awful
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:42 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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The objective portion of the BCS favors OSU. They'll be a conference champ who has played a more difficult schedule and has yet to lose to LSU. The SEC is terrible, and Bama hasn't done much OOC.
OP keeps ignoring this for some reason
I understand where he is coming from but he needs to look at everything
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:42 pm to Hoyt
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Absolutely... but I've also watched the other schools play. Who is better than Alabama?
LSU.
Again, I'm not saying its right or wrong but there are voters that don't want a rematch, or think OSU's wins are better than Bama's.
So just don't be surprised when there is a major shift next week should OSU win big and VT lose.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:43 pm to Hoyt
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However, a "waaaaayyy down" SEC is still a more difficult conference than the Pac 12 and the Big 12
Not in the computers this year
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:43 pm to Hoyt
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However, a "waaaaayyy down" SEC is still a more difficult conference than the Pac 12 and the Big 12
Every computer says that the Big12 is the best conference top to bottom this year.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:44 pm to Hoyt
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The BCS was designed to always ensure a #1 vs #2 matchup and hopefully eliminate a #4 from jumping to #1 and winning a NC. You cannot measure how deserving a team is... can't do it. But, you can watch teams play and have a pretty sound idea of who the best team available is... and that is Alabama.
I wonder if 07 was just an outlier.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 6:44 pm to Eighteen
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OP keeps ignoring this for some reason
I understand where he is coming from but he needs to look at everything
Alabama is a unique situation. Nobody expected LSU, Bama, and Arky (3 teams in the same division) to be ranked #1-#3 at one point. That in and of itself provides a solid look at a truly unique situation.
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