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re: How a 16 team SEC would look
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:05 pm to UnderCoverHog
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:05 pm to UnderCoverHog
How about we do this:
Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee & Georgia in one division...
Everybody else in the other.
Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee & Georgia in one division...
Everybody else in the other.
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Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:05 pm to UnderCoverHog
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NC State has a very small following so adding them for the sake of another TV market would make no sense to me.
But, but, but... the footprint is all that matters.
If we add Sisters of the Poor of Raleigh, we'll get all the cable subscribers in North Carolina!
Maybe Slive should just convince Clemson to relocate to Charlotte. Or persuade North Carolina and South Carolina to mend fences and reunite like East and West Germany did.
Slive needs to really think outside the box. Dude is obviously not earning his paycheck.
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:06 pm to Nuts4LSU
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UNC and NC State leaving the ACC would be the equivalent of Alabama and Auburn leaving the SEC.
It's a false comparison. It assumes the conferences are created equal. The SEC has all the money. The ACC doesn't and is on the verge of further collapse. You take away FSU, VT, and another team and the ACC is worth about as much as the Big East.
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:07 pm to TXGunslinger10
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North: Vandy, Tennessee, Kentucky, VA Tech
Where do I sign?
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:07 pm to Nuts4LSU
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UNC and NC State leaving the ACC would be the equivalent of Alabama and Auburn leaving the SEC.
Exactly.
You, sir, are an it getter.
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:07 pm to TXGunslinger10
That East division looks pretty tough if USC sustains close to how they are now.
Other than that it's pretty good balance. Just think the east doesn't have any shite teams compared to the other pods.
Other than that it's pretty good balance. Just think the east doesn't have any shite teams compared to the other pods.
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:07 pm to TXGunslinger10
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How about we do this:
Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee & Georgia in one division...
Everybody else in the other.
I'm actually all for this. But then UGA would complain about not having UF. Remember, those teams are fighting about second and third tier rivalries.
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:07 pm to Nuts4LSU
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UNC and DUKE leaving the ACC would be the equivalent of Alabama and Auburn leaving the SEC.
fify...
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:07 pm to Duckie
do not want
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:08 pm to ugasickem
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Poor Ole Miss, and Miss. St.
At least State would get one division win every year
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:08 pm to BrerTiger
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Exactly.
You, sir, are an it getter.
No. Y'all are both naive. It's about money. It's always been about money. To assume otherwise is just foolish on your part and surprising after recent events.
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:10 pm to Tiger Authority
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The ACC doesn't and is on the verge of further collapse
Someone forgot to tell Pitt and Syracuse.
FSU is just exercising some negotiating leverage. Ditto for Clemson. They're not going anywhere and if they did they'd prefer the SEC (if we'd have them, which we won't because of the footprint argument).
West Virginia joined the Big 12 out of desperation because the Big East was rapidly collapsing. There's no sane reason for FSU, VT or Clemson to bolt the ACC for the Big 12. Why take on all that extra travel?
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:13 pm to Tiger Authority
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No. Y'all are both naive. It's about money. It's always been about money. To assume otherwise is just foolish on your part and surprising after recent events.
Yeah, well, state schools have to answer to their respective legislatures and I have a hunch the North Carolina legislature would not be thrilled about NC State unilaterally bolting for the SEC and leaving the other NC schools high and dry.
We could argue this all day but NC State seems unlikely. I wouldn't rule it out entirely but if you can't see the odds of NC State bolting for the SEC are low then I can't help you.
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:13 pm to BrerTiger
Well, do you honestly think the SEC sits at 14?
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:14 pm to BrerTiger
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Someone forgot to tell Pitt and Syracuse.
What do they provide on the football front? Little. The further collapse comment is based on what looks like the probability of other teams leaving that are basically the football breadwinners for the conference.
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FSU is just exercising some negotiating leverage. Ditto for Clemson. They're not going anywhere and if they did they'd prefer the SEC (if we'd have them, which we won't because of the footprint argument).
Negotiating leverage for what? They're never going to get unequal revenue sharing.
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West Virginia joined the Big 12 out of desperation because the Big East was rapidly collapsing. There's no sane reason for FSU, VT or Clemson to bolt the ACC for the Big 12. Why take on all that extra travel?
They would if the right offer was presented. Again, it's about money.
This post was edited on 5/24/12 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:14 pm to Duckie
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Well, do you honestly think the SEC sits at 14?
unfortunately, no.
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:17 pm to Tiger Authority
IMO, the only schools that should be looked at to add are VTech, Clemson, and FSU.
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:18 pm to Duckie
Vtech certainly. Disagree with Clemson. I'm partial to FSU but it doesn't make much sense either, I just think they would be a good fit for non-monetary reasons.
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:19 pm to Tiger Authority
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They would if the right offer was presented. Again, it's about money.
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As for NC State — a school oft-mentioned because no one believes North Carolina and/or Duke would move to the SEC — there would be some serious political issues to work out as well. NCSU is a “constituent institution” of the University of North Carolina system. In other words, the schools have a connection. We’re not talking Texas and Texas A&M, here.
State has a 13-person board of trustees. One member is the president of the student government. Four trustees are appointed by the governor. The remaining eight NCSU trustees are elected by the UNC board of governors.
If State’s administration decided that their school would be better off in the SEC, it appears from afar that at least two of the eight trustees put in place by UNC’s board would have to okay the move. And that’s if all the other non-UNC-elected trustees favored the move. And that’s if a vote to switch conferences only requires a 7-6 majority.
Is it possible that State would move from the ACC to the SEC? Sure, anything’s possible. Especially when millions of dollars are on the table.
But it would appear Virginia Tech and especially NC State would have to wage some large-scale political battles to exit their current league.
If they even wanted to switch leagues.
If the SEC decides to expand again.
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But do go on...
Posted on 5/24/12 at 2:20 pm to Tiger Authority
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Vtech certainly. Disagree with Clemson. I'm partial to FSU but it doesn't make much sense either, I just think they would be a good fit for non-monetary reasons.
Meh, I am not a strong believer that you must add another state to add to a conference. FSU is a national program, not just a Florida program. They would add more televisions than NCState even if you don't gain a market.
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