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re: Houston Nutt vs. High Expectations
Posted on 5/6/09 at 12:09 pm to sugatowng
Posted on 5/6/09 at 12:09 pm to sugatowng
Make that 20 bowl wins now with a .625 winning percentage. That puts us one bowl win short of being in the top ten schools in bowl wins. One behind Lsu. All that includes our four years of hell we just went thru. That four years of hell is the only reason Ark has a winning record against us. That .625 is another thing to be proud of. I didn't notice but six or seven that had better winning % that have been in ten or more bowls. As for total bowls played in? We are 7 behind number ten on that list. (ohio state) One team that needs to improve their bowl record is Ark. 11-22-3 shows me y'all have been over rated and your bowl problems have been around lots longer than when Nutt was there.
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Posted on 5/6/09 at 12:24 pm to sugatowng
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Hell we are battling for recruits that were born in the fricking early 90's!
If thats the case wouldn't we have the leg up in recruiting? O wait HDN cant recruit
Posted on 5/6/09 at 12:29 pm to mmjones87
What all have I listened to the past year? Houston Nutt can't recruit. Houston Nutt can't win with a team that is talented enough to win the NC. (see video houston nutt you suck) Houston Nutt can't win a bowl game. Houston Nutt will beat somebody he aint supposed to. Houston Nutt will lose to somebody he aint supposed to. These are all reasons for Nutt to not be in Ark. There is only one thing I can realize out of all this. The drugs are better on the west side of the river.
Posted on 5/6/09 at 12:34 pm to bbqit
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The drugs are better on the west side of the river.
Its kinda like the Tuberville relationship with us. Minus the Pine Box.
Posted on 5/6/09 at 12:35 pm to bbqit
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The drugs are better on the west side of the river.
can you hook me up with bars?
Posted on 5/6/09 at 12:48 pm to mmjones87
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If thats the case wouldn't we have the leg up in recruiting?
How so?
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O wait HDN cant recruit
One good recruiting class in 12 proves this
Posted on 5/6/09 at 12:52 pm to bbqit
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Houston Nutt can't recruit.
1 good recruiting class in 12 and 3 of your TOP recruits are grade risk or character risks
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Houston Nutt can't win a bowl game
losing record...Hell Stoops is in the same boat but at least all his losses are in BCS games
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Houston Nutt will beat somebody he aint supposed to.
True...True (Florida/Texas/LSU) between the 2 schools
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Houston Nutt will lose to somebody he aint supposed to
Vandy, UK, WF, UNLV, Vandy again between the 2 schools
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The drugs are better on the west side of the river.
I sure got some kiiiinnddd Kush
Posted on 5/6/09 at 2:14 pm to sugatowng
Even if Ole Piss could win the West and somehow by some miricle won the SEC, with their SOS would not play for the NC. They're going to give to someone else with a better SOS. If Ohio St. was first, and OM had a better record than say USC, then USC might get picked to play Ohio St., just because they might be a better draw than OM.
Posted on 5/6/09 at 2:40 pm to pitbull1Ark
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How so?
Earlier it was posted by an Arky that it doesn't matter what a program has done in the past. (Like our championships in the 60's.) Because we are battling for recruits born in the early 90's. So if this holds true?
Why wouldn't Ole Miss have the leg up on Arky in recruiting? Based on the fact that the success that yall have had in recent years can be attributed to HDN. Because the Snake has yet to get ya'll to a bowl game.
This post was edited on 5/6/09 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 5/6/09 at 3:14 pm to mmjones87
Yes we will have a poor sos but the difference between us and when it happened to auburn is we will have a high preseason poll ranking. That ane bama, lsu and fla being ranked very high will keep us from droppin in the bcs calculations. With that said I really don't think we will win it but if we don't it won't be cause of our weak sos.
Posted on 5/6/09 at 3:34 pm to bbqit
So your saying that you rank coaches based on who they win/lose too......
Nick Saban has lost to UAB and ULM, Pete Carrol loses to crap teams every year(last year at home). So by your analogy, they suck and will cannot win a championship because they sometimes lose to people they shouldn't..
but wait....they have.
Nick Saban has lost to UAB and ULM, Pete Carrol loses to crap teams every year(last year at home). So by your analogy, they suck and will cannot win a championship because they sometimes lose to people they shouldn't..
but wait....they have.
Posted on 5/6/09 at 3:52 pm to pankReb
Ark talks about Nutt's losing record in bowl games. Ark total bowl record is 11-22-3. A .350 %. Ark been losing bowl games long before Nutt got there. It ain't his fault. So who's fault is it? I think there is a simple answer. They have been over rated through out the years.
Posted on 5/6/09 at 4:00 pm to bbqit
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It ain't his fault
It's his fault he lost the games he coached jackass
Posted on 5/6/09 at 4:01 pm to sugatowng
So it's Petrino's fault that he lost the games he coached last year?
Posted on 5/6/09 at 4:03 pm to mmjones87
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Based on the fact that the success that yall have had in recent years can be attributed to HDN
Based on quotes from recruits themselves, the majority know the PROGRAM and not the coach.
Hell...many don't know the programs at all...It's not just Arkansas or OM but across the country...
Posted on 5/6/09 at 4:05 pm to pankReb
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So it's Petrino's fault that he lost the games he coached last year?
In the games where we had a shot in hell...Yes
This would include OM, UK and MSU
The rest of our losses we were outmatched all over the place in regards to talent and that falls directly on the recruiting coach...
This post was edited on 5/6/09 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 5/6/09 at 4:05 pm to sugatowng
Heck don't stop there. Let's include the little green aliens in them space ships too. I bet they know you are right.
Posted on 5/6/09 at 4:06 pm to sugatowng
I'll just keep reposting my original post. I respectfully disagree with my fellow Hog fans and say that Houston Nutt can recruit. I'll also say to Rebels who think he is a good, accomplished coach or any others that say "He does more with less" that that is simply not true.
His last 6 years at Arkansas he had 6 first rounders, 7 second rounders, and 32 drafted in rounds 1 - 7. That's almost 6 per year, excluding well over a dozen free agents.
That isn't "monumental" but is in the top half of the SEC.
Point being:
1)He can recruit. He just goes after too many "diamonds in the rough" and classes drop between 20 and 40. Most do not pan out.
2)Houston doesn't do more with less. That's a bullshite, cliche catchphrase that in no way whatsoever is backed up by statistical evidence. To the contrary, stats show that he takes more and does less.
In his last 6 years he had the SEC All-Time rushing QB in Matt Jones, a 5,100 APY gentleman by the name of Felix Jones, the SEC's 2nd leading rusher in Darren McFadden, Pro Bowler Shawn Andrews, Pro Bowler Ken Hamlin, Rimington Trophy winner Jonathon Luigs, 32 draft picks, 6 first rounders, on and on and on..... ANY COACH WITH HALF A BRAIN WINS THE SEC WITH THAT TALENT. AT A MINIMUM, GOES A GAME OVER .500.
Yet in that time frame he lost to Vandy twice, had an abysmal road record, a losing record to the top 25, a 4 win season, a 5 win season, and went 1-3 in lower tier bowls, went under .500 in the SEC, on and on and on......
(And, no, going to Atlanta twice in 11 fricking years, once thanks to a Bama probation, both trips by tie-breaker, doesn't strike me as amazing.)
His last 6 years at Arkansas he had 6 first rounders, 7 second rounders, and 32 drafted in rounds 1 - 7. That's almost 6 per year, excluding well over a dozen free agents.
That isn't "monumental" but is in the top half of the SEC.
Point being:
1)He can recruit. He just goes after too many "diamonds in the rough" and classes drop between 20 and 40. Most do not pan out.
2)Houston doesn't do more with less. That's a bullshite, cliche catchphrase that in no way whatsoever is backed up by statistical evidence. To the contrary, stats show that he takes more and does less.
In his last 6 years he had the SEC All-Time rushing QB in Matt Jones, a 5,100 APY gentleman by the name of Felix Jones, the SEC's 2nd leading rusher in Darren McFadden, Pro Bowler Shawn Andrews, Pro Bowler Ken Hamlin, Rimington Trophy winner Jonathon Luigs, 32 draft picks, 6 first rounders, on and on and on..... ANY COACH WITH HALF A BRAIN WINS THE SEC WITH THAT TALENT. AT A MINIMUM, GOES A GAME OVER .500.
Yet in that time frame he lost to Vandy twice, had an abysmal road record, a losing record to the top 25, a 4 win season, a 5 win season, and went 1-3 in lower tier bowls, went under .500 in the SEC, on and on and on......
(And, no, going to Atlanta twice in 11 fricking years, once thanks to a Bama probation, both trips by tie-breaker, doesn't strike me as amazing.)
This post was edited on 5/6/09 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 5/6/09 at 4:08 pm to sugatowng
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Based on quotes from recruits themselves, the majority know the PROGRAM and not the coach.
Link?
So your saying that the recruits came to Arkansas regardless of Petrino?
Posted on 5/6/09 at 4:08 pm to bbqit
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Heck don't stop there. Let's include the little green aliens in them space ships too. I bet they know you are right.
At least fricking quote what you are responding too...
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