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Houston Nutt vs. High Expectations

Posted on 5/5/09 at 4:56 pm
Posted by Alabama Slim
2009,2011 BCS National Champions
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Posted on 5/5/09 at 4:56 pm
did Ole Miss fans just not pay attention to him when he was at Arky?
Posted by RGCjr01
Brookhaven / Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/5/09 at 4:58 pm to
You can't base what he did at Arky on what he will and has already done at Ole Miss. He can recruit a lot better here than he did in Arkansas.
Posted by HawgAlude
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/5/09 at 5:00 pm to


yeah or he can just oversign by 13 and let the chips fall where they may. Mediocrity is Ole Miss and Houston Nutt.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
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Posted on 5/5/09 at 5:04 pm to
also sign thugs that even uf kicked off to only have them kicked off again
Posted by RGCjr01
Brookhaven / Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Dec 2008
4865 posts
Posted on 5/5/09 at 5:07 pm to
23 - 21

31 - 13
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
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Posted on 5/5/09 at 5:09 pm to
yea that means alot in counter to him recruiting a kid that used a dead girls credit card. good job retard go make another shitty top 25
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 5/5/09 at 5:10 pm to
also ive got four numbers for you.

1963
Posted by RGCjr01
Brookhaven / Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/5/09 at 5:16 pm to
I knew that would piss you off I hope you won't hold a grudge too long.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
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Posted on 5/5/09 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

Houston Nutt
quote:

High Expectations
these two things do not go well together.....
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 5/5/09 at 5:18 pm to
naw im just on edge bc my fricking lap top still wont start

plus we might have lost but at least we have an sec title recently
This post was edited on 5/5/09 at 5:21 pm
Posted by HawgAlude
Member since Jul 2008
5658 posts
Posted on 5/5/09 at 5:19 pm to
when he was at Arkansas he had a player by the name of Marcus Harrison get caught up in drug and gun charges. Nutt I think set him for 1 game and then let him play. He now plays in the NFL and this would have never been allowed to happen with Petrino at the helm. Like I said with Nutt's track record and Ole Misses past they are a match made in heaven. Probably why he loves it there so much.
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 5/5/09 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

He can recruit a lot better here than he did in Arkansas.


what does that have to do with expectations this year? Isn't OM supposed to have 16 returning All-Americans?
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 5/5/09 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

He can recruit a lot better here than he did in Arkansas.



I went into this on the main board.

Nutt can recruit. He gets in trouble with the "diamonds in the rough" that inevitably drop his classes between 20 and 40.

I guarantee you he will, at best, recruit on par with his efforts at Arkansas.

Read my post from earlier:

His last 6 years at Arkansas he had 6 first rounders, 7 second rounders, and 32 drafted in rounds 1 - 7. That's almost 6 per year, excluding free agents.

That isn't "monumental" but is in the top half of the SEC.

Point being:

1)He can recruit. He just goes after too many "diamonds in the rough" and classes drop between 20 and 40. Most do not pan out.

2)Houston doesn't do more with less. That's a bullshite, cliche catchphrase that in no way whatsoever is backed up by statistical evidence. To the contrary, stats show that he takes more and does less.

In his last 6 years he had the SEC All-Time rushing QB in Matt Jones, a 5,100 APY gentleman by the name of Felix Jones, the SEC's 2nd leading rusher in Darren McFadden, Pro Bowler Shawn Andrews, Pro Bowler Ken Hamlin, Rimington Trophy winner Jonathon Luigs, 32 draft picks, 6 first rounders, on and on and on.....

Yet in that time frame he lost to Vandy twice, had an abysmal road record, a losing record to the top 25, a 4 win season, a 5 win season, and went 1-3 in lower tier bowls, went .500 in the SEC, on and on and on......

(And, no, going to Atlanta twice in 11 fricking years, once thanks to a Bama probation, both trips by tie-breaker, doesn't strike me as amazing.)
This post was edited on 5/5/09 at 5:25 pm
Posted by RGCjr01
Brookhaven / Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Dec 2008
4865 posts
Posted on 5/5/09 at 5:26 pm to
Nobody knows what will happen this year. The Rebs love Nutt and we think can meet these expectations. I believe his tenure at Ole Miss will be much better than that of his with Arky. This season will tell us a lot.
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Member since Jun 2008
8590 posts
Posted on 5/5/09 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

I went into this on the main board.

Nutt can recruit. He gets in trouble with the "diamonds in the rough" that inevitably drop his classes between 20 and 40.

I guarantee you he will, at best, recruit on par with his efforts at Arkansas.

Read my post from earlier:

His last 6 years at Arkansas he had 6 first rounders, 7 second rounders, and 32 drafted in rounds 1 - 7. That's almost 6 per year, excluding free agents.

That isn't "monumental" but is in the top half of the SEC.

Point being:

1)He can recruit. He just goes after too many "diamonds in the rough" and classes drop between 20 and 40. Most do not pan out.

2)Houston doesn't do more with less. That's a bullshite, cliche catchphrase that in no way whatsoever is backed up by statistical evidence. To the contrary, stats show that he takes more and does less.

In his last 6 years he had the SEC All-Time rushing QB in Matt Jones, a 5,100 APY gentleman by the name of Felix Jones, the SEC's 2nd leading rusher in Darren McFadden, Pro Bowler Shawn Andrews, Pro Bowler Ken Hamlin, Rimington Trophy winner Jonathon Luigs, 32 draft picks, 6 first rounders, on and on and on.....

Yet in that time frame he lost to Vandy twice, had an abysmal road record, a losing record to the top 25, a 4 win season, a 5 win season, and went 1-3 in lower tier bowls, went .500 in the SEC, on and on and on......

(And, no, going to Atlanta twice in 11 fricking years, once thanks to a Bama probation, both trips by tie-breaker, doesn't strike me as amazing.)


And all of that points to the following:

It's not that he can't recruit. It's that he can't coach.

He is a lower tier coaching mind with upper echelon talent. Sometimes the talent outweighs his elementary X's and O's, sometimes it doesn't. Which perfectly explains his inconsistency, .500 ho-hum resume, and inability to take a program to the "next level".

He had the same success at Arkansas with Danny Ford's players and his fresh, new preaching and rah-rah BS that we now see at Old Piss with Coach O's talent and the same ole' catch phrases and feel good seminars.

At the end of the day he is who he is and Ole Miss will soon see what we mean.
Posted by RGCjr01
Brookhaven / Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Dec 2008
4865 posts
Posted on 5/5/09 at 5:42 pm to
He is a great coach and yet a better leader for this football program. Ole Miss loves Houston Nutt. I honestly think Arky fans are getting really jealous with Sneads big interview on ESPN tonight, Nutt doing so awesome last year, being ranked in the top 10, etc.
This post was edited on 5/5/09 at 5:43 pm
Posted by Dinkle Dawg
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/5/09 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

RGCjr01
YOU
Posted by RGCjr01
Brookhaven / Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Dec 2008
4865 posts
Posted on 5/5/09 at 5:48 pm to
I can agree with that except for one thing, I don't switch teams up based on how their doing, I'm strictly State and OM through thick and thin no matter how bad they do. I take up for both and NEVER put down either.
Posted by Dinkle Dawg
Member since Feb 2003
Member since Feb 2009
3345 posts
Posted on 5/5/09 at 5:49 pm to
If state wasn't getting these recruits or had they not won the SEC in b-ball you wouldn't give shite about MSU in basketball
Posted by RGCjr01
Brookhaven / Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Dec 2008
4865 posts
Posted on 5/5/09 at 5:51 pm to
Yes I would. I take up for them in football all the time and look how poorly they did last year.
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