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re: Honest Answer, LSU Fans...Cross-Div. Games
Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:22 pm to southernboisb
Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:22 pm to southernboisb
Honest answer...Forced cross division rivalries take the luster out of SECFB IMO. A team plays a different SEC E/W opponent every 2 years. Sometimes it works in your favor sometimes it does not. With the permanent rivalries, if you get paired with an opponent who is on a long streak of shitacular football, lookin at you UT, it favorably unbalances the SOS for your team. Switching to a full rotating sched of x-div opponents would IMO give a truer reading of how good/bad a team is.
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:24 pm to southernboisb
Honest answer. Because the schedule is considerably easier for Alabama.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:26 pm to 10888bge
I like the Florida game. My reasoning, as others have said is that I want to see us play the teams from the East more often. Why can't UGA-AU and Bama-UTk keep their permanent thing, and everyone else rotate around? Most of the rest are forced rivalry anyway, and it'd be more interesting to play South Carolina, Tennessee, and Georgia more often than just Florida every year.
Is there some reason why those two games can't stay permanent while everyone else rotates?
Is there some reason why those two games can't stay permanent while everyone else rotates?
Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:47 pm to ILeaveAtHalftime
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Honest Answer, LSU Fans...Cross-Div. Games
I like the Florida game. My reasoning, as others have said is that I want to see us play the teams from the East more often. Why can't UGA-AU and Bama-UTk keep their permanent thing, and everyone else rotate around? Most of the rest are forced rivalry anyway, and it'd be more interesting to play South Carolina, Tennessee, and Georgia more often than just Florida every year.
Is there some reason why those two games can't stay permanent while everyone else rotates?
I've wondered that myself, but nobody can seem to come up with a schedule rotation that can handle it.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:48 pm to BigEdLSU
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Because the schedule is considerably easier for Alabama.
Yes that's the case currently but that could change overnight. UT won't stay down much longer and the Tigers have defeated the Gator's 6 of the last ten. It's a negative much more for the fact that the other cross-divisional venues are seen once per dozen years. That sux big-time.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:48 pm to ILeaveAtHalftime
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Is there some reason why those two games can't stay permanent while everyone else rotates?
Bama said no.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:52 pm to RANDY44
Florida hasn't been bad and won't be bad at any point in the future. (Recent history)
I love the game. Tennessee has been way down for a while now.
They don't have a built in talent base.
I love the game. Tennessee has been way down for a while now.
They don't have a built in talent base.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:52 pm to southernboisb
I like playing UF
Just not every year.
Just think a rotation and getting to see teams like SC/UGA/UT would be great as a fan.
Just not every year.
Just think a rotation and getting to see teams like SC/UGA/UT would be great as a fan.
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:54 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Balanced scheduling.
It's not at all about our schedule being harder, it's about certain other teams who seem to get very easy draws year after year
Yea it is totally not fair that LSU drew 4-8 Florida and 2-10 Kentucky this year.
The solution is simple. 9 game conference schedule. We added 4 teams to the conference without adding games, and now everyone is whining that the schedule issues are all the fault of Bama/AU/UGA/UT.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:56 pm to RANDY44
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Yes that's the case currently but that could change overnight.
And I'm sure when that happens we'll mysteriously go back to the "bridge" schedule so the bama grad director of scheduling can hand pick bama's opponents year by year.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:57 pm to lsusteve1
Poor Vandy has to play florida every year too. You dont hear them complaining.
I dont hear tenn fans complaining about bama every year. They look forward to it.
Same with uga and auburn. We look forward to a good game.
Only people bitching are lsu fans.
Makes no sense to me.
I dont hear tenn fans complaining about bama every year. They look forward to it.
Same with uga and auburn. We look forward to a good game.
Only people bitching are lsu fans.
Makes no sense to me.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:59 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Also to those who say Bama has an unfair advantage, has Alabama ever won the West in a year we lost to LSU?
If the premise of the argument is that LSU has a disadvantage because they can beat Bama and Bama still goes to Atlanta due to a weaker East schedule, provide us of some examples of the many years where LSU would have made it to Atlanta instead of Bama if it were not for LSU playing Florida and Bama playing Tennessee. If this truly is the disadvantage you speak of, buck up and show us where you got screwed.
My hypothesis would be that the East schedule does not matter as much as people assume. In years where LSU wins the West, it is because they beat up the other teams in the West. In years LSU loses the West, they were not good enough to beat the other West teams anyways.
If the premise of the argument is that LSU has a disadvantage because they can beat Bama and Bama still goes to Atlanta due to a weaker East schedule, provide us of some examples of the many years where LSU would have made it to Atlanta instead of Bama if it were not for LSU playing Florida and Bama playing Tennessee. If this truly is the disadvantage you speak of, buck up and show us where you got screwed.
My hypothesis would be that the East schedule does not matter as much as people assume. In years where LSU wins the West, it is because they beat up the other teams in the West. In years LSU loses the West, they were not good enough to beat the other West teams anyways.
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:01 pm to deeprig9
Its contrary to the entire spirit of college football.
"Our team is coming to town against your team and I dont give a shite about your ranking, we gonna whip yo arse."
Thats what college football is all about Charlie Brown.
"Our team is coming to town against your team and I dont give a shite about your ranking, we gonna whip yo arse."
Thats what college football is all about Charlie Brown.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:03 pm to Monticello
I don't blame Bama/UT/Aub/UGA. I blame the conference office for bone headed scheduling and I respect Saban for wanting 9 games. I really do want you guys to keep your rivalries.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:03 pm to Monticello
Everyone keeps saying LSU is just trying to get out of the UF game. But most of the LSU fans in this thread are saying it's not the Florida game (most like it). It's never playing the other eastern teams, or at least as often as we should being in the same conference.
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:05 pm to ILeaveAtHalftime
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Everyone keeps saying LSU is just trying to get out of the UF game. But most of the LSU fans in this thread are saying it's not the Florida game (most like it). It's never playing the other eastern teams, or at least as often as we should being in the same conference.
If its not about playing Florida, and is all about wanting to play more East teams, then why won't LSU vote for 9 conference games?
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:07 pm to Monticello
I agree with you on that point. Unfortunately I don't work in the Ath Dept.
I've never seen a good reason for it either. Disappointed in Alleva on that one
I've never seen a good reason for it either. Disappointed in Alleva on that one
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:07 pm to Monticello
It matters in the context of a playoff IMO.
Uga doesn't play Saban annually if they did their tune would change.
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want to lose either game annually. But it is what it is. If not for Bama, LSU would have just had the dynasty. Therefore we nitpick your hand picked schedule.
Uga doesn't play Saban annually if they did their tune would change.
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want to lose either game annually. But it is what it is. If not for Bama, LSU would have just had the dynasty. Therefore we nitpick your hand picked schedule.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:08 pm to southernboisb
Its not just LSU fans that think permanent cross division games are stupid.
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:08 pm to Monticello
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Also to those who say Bama has an unfair advantage, has Alabama ever won the West in a year we lost to LSU?
If the premise of the argument is that LSU has a disadvantage because they can beat Bama and Bama still goes to Atlanta due to a weaker East schedule, provide us of some examples of the many years where LSU would have made it to Atlanta instead of Bama if it were not for LSU playing Florida and Bama playing Tennessee. If this truly is the disadvantage you speak of, buck up and show us where you got screwed.
Well #1 you're ignoring 3 way ties. LSU, A&M and Bama all beat each other in 2012. LSU and A&M lost to Florida so Bama, who had a very weak eastern division slate (as usual) won the division so yes, it has happened before.
And #2 you're ignoring fatigue/injuries that come with playing a harder schedule. When you're Bama you only have to get "up" for 1 or 2 games instead of 3 or 4. It means Alabama can focus their energies on just a couple of opponents instead of week in, week out like LSU.
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