Started By
Message
re: Hey LSU the Big 12 is waiting for you
Posted on 8/23/14 at 10:41 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Posted on 8/23/14 at 10:41 pm to CapstoneGrad06
quote:
Because they profess to hate Texas, but try to act just like them (without any history to back it up)
Huh?
All Texans are braggarts, hate to break it to you
0
Posted on 8/23/14 at 10:44 pm to CapstoneGrad06
quote:
Because they profess to hate Texas, but try to act just like them (without any history to back it up).
The Greatest Program Of All-Time Is...
Posted on 8/23/14 at 10:46 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Wrong school
Posted on 8/23/14 at 10:49 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:
Oklahoma is a smaller market than you realize, their pedigree aside
I live in OKC, so I have a pretty good idea, but they have a huge following in Dallas, and other parts of Texas.
quote:
They are tethered to oSu.
I agree, and people here think they wouldn't just walk away from the Texas rivalry, but they also seem to think Texas would maybe go the Notre Dame route, so it wouldn't have any impact on the red river rivalry either way.
quote:
A&M/Mizzou would fight it tooth and nail if that came to pass.
They might, but if Bama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, UGA, ect wanted OU, would it really matter? I'm not flaming, because I have to listen to OU fans in person, and on the radio, so I'm not defending the university, but looking at it objectively, with no bias either way, OU would be an amazing addition to the SEC. At the end of the day, most people here, think OU would end up going to the PAC 12, if push came to shove, so this debate is really a moot point.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 10:53 pm to tamctshirt
this is what I think of, when I hear "boomer sooner"
Posted on 8/23/14 at 10:56 pm to CapstoneGrad06
quote:
So they puff their chest out and suggest they would be able to block a move that brought an old Big XII rival to the SEC.
I have to agree. Imo, A&M would have no say, in whether or not the SEC took OU.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 10:56 pm to CapstoneGrad06
quote:
Wrong school
It's absurd to say Oklahoma has no history - especially from a fan of a team that's only got a .300 win rate against them.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:00 pm to Brendoni
quote:
I live in OKC
No shite? I used to be stationed over in Altus
quote:
they have a huge following in Dallas, and other parts of Texas.
Granted, but this also works against them from a conference expansion stanpoint. The SEC already has a strong presence in the TX markets now thanks to TAMU (which also has a huge following, not to mention our instate rival fans that tune in hoping to witness our failure). In short, there isn't as much potential to gain a significantly larger market.
quote:
I agree, and people here think they wouldn't just walk away from the Texas rivalry, but they also seem to think Texas would maybe go the Notre Dame route, so it wouldn't have any impact on the red river rivalry either way.
Texas blew their chance to pull a ND in this last round of realignment and are now tethered to the other big12 schools for at least the next decadr. And you better believe those TX schools will use the interim to make damn sure they're not left in a lurch like what almost happened last time (see: Baylor threatening lawsuits to block A&M going to the SEC).
quote:
if Bama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, UGA, ect wanted OU, would it really matter?
The SEC knows the strength of its brand is in its power as a collective. TAMU wouldn't have made the jump to the conference without strong assurances that our newfound advantage wouldn't only be eroded by former big12 foes following us through a perceived open door, and the schools you mentioned would be less inclined to betray that trust just to add another marquee school to the conference. Not good business practice for a variety of reasons.
quote:
OU would be an amazing addition to the SEC.
Eh, that's highly subjective. We may have already surpassed the point of brand saturation with the teams already in the conference. Adding OU would seem to be subtraction by addition from a business and competition standpoint, IMO.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:01 pm to Brendoni
quote:
A&M would have no say, in whether or not the SEC took OU.
This is wildly incorrect conjecture.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:06 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
It's absurd to say Oklahoma has no history - especially from a fan of a team that's only got a .300 win rate against them.
You still haven't figured it out genius. I wasn't even referring to Oklahoma.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:08 pm to CapstoneGrad06
quote:
You still haven't figured it out genius. I wasn't even referring to Oklahoma.
Surely you didn't mean A&M acts like UT.
The Aggies act like no one else - thankfully.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:11 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:
I used to be stationed over in Altus
quote:
Granted, but this also works against them from a conference expansion stanpoint. The SEC already has a strong presence in the TX markets now thanks to TAMU (which also has a huge following, not to mention our instate rival fans that tune in hoping to witness our failure). In short, there isn't as much potential to gain a significantly larger market.
I can't argue that, but let's be honest, OU/Bama week 3, OU/LSU week 5, OU/Auburn week 6, ect, would bring huge ratings, from a national standpoint.
quote:
Adding OU would seem to be subtraction by addition from a business and competition standpoint, IMO.
I have to disagree, I think adding OU would make the SEC even more competitive.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:11 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
The Aggies act like no one else - thankfully.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:15 pm to Brendoni
quote:
OU/Bama week 3, OU/LSU week 5, OU/Auburn week 6, ect, would bring huge ratings, from a national standpoint.
Ratings come and go, but are more capricious than markets. Expansion is about markets, not just grabbing big name teams.
quote:
I think adding OU would make the SEC even more competitive.
I have to counter with the cannibalization argument. A&M nearly cost the SEC a title game berth in our first year, and Mizzou denied SC a SEC title game berth in their second. Brand dilution is very possible--nay, ineluctable, once you get past a certain point. And once that happens, guess what happens to your ratings?
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:17 pm to Brendoni
quote:and that isn't what expansion is about. Expansion is about markets
OU/Bama week 3, OU/LSU week 5, OU/Auburn week 6, ect, would bring huge ratings, from a national standpoint
quote:it already is competitive. There is not much more they could add to that
, I think adding OU would make the SEC even more competitive
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:21 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:
A&M nearly cost the SEC a title game berth in our first year, and Mizzou denied SC a SEC title game berth in their second.
True, but with the new playoff system, I think the SEC would be able to overcome a situation like that, especially since the Big XII-II, would be even more watered down. In fact, some people think, with the injury of Braxton Miller, the SEC is almost guaranteed to get 2 teams in, this year.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:25 pm to WestCoastAg
OU would be beneficial to the SEC - our overall brand, our prestige, & our reach across the U.S would only increase with them here.
Top CFB tv markets (2011)
Top CFB tv markets (2011)
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:26 pm to Brendoni
quote:
with the new playoff system, I think the SEC would be able to overcome a situation like that
That's not a guarantee, and still misses the point of expansion.
quote:
the Big XII-II, would be even more watered down.
Again, not a guarantee for the long term. The SEC won't expand in a vacuum.
There simply aren't enough pros to outweigh the business and competition cons of adding OU as things look to stand for the forseeable future.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:28 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
and that isn't what expansion is about. Expansion is about markets
like I said before, OU has a big following in dallas, and their alumni stretches all across the united states.
quote:
There is not much more they could add to that
Adding OU would make the SEC far more competitive, there's no getting around it.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:31 pm to Brendoni
quote:
like I said before, OU has a big following in dallas
Like I said before, this hurts your argument far more than it helps it.
quote:
Adding OU would make the SEC far more competitive, there's no getting around it.
There's no getting around cannibalization/dilution, either. Far more of a concern than any marginal (and unquantifiable) possible increases in competition.
This isn't NCAA14
Page 7 of 12
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News