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re: Here is police body cam footage released of 1 police incident at Florida Georgia game

Posted on 11/5/24 at 6:04 pm to
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 6:04 pm to
I know one thing. If a JSO officer was in this thread none of you would still be arging about this. He would have shut this down with a some nasty combinations to the chin, a couple of taser shots, and some axe handles across the back of the skull with his cuffs.
Posted by TexasWranglers
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 6:04 pm to
What should he have done? He tried grabbing his hands, he tried tazering him twice, he asked repeatedly. Whats the next step?? Honest question? He didn't pull his gun out. How do you remove someone who refuses without physical force? Tell me?
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 6:05 pm to
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They tasted him twice and he didn't go down


I think by rule he won and should have been allowed to keep his seat and keep watching the game.
Posted by TexasWranglers
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 6:13 pm to
Of course it is to not have a video like this or a cop hitting a civilian.
HOWEVER, they tried deescalation by talking to the man out of his seat. Should they have called 10 other officers to drag him out of his seat? Should they have thrown their hands up and said “we tried”

What was the next step in this situation of the goal is to remove him?
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 6:15 pm to
Why has no one posted any more videos of the police going MMA, just bare knuckle brawling, with fans in the stands at other SEC games this year?

This has been fun. There were two good videos from this game. It looks like the same officer is in both of them. He is clearly the champ of the WLOCP.

Since this is all normal, I want to see all the other videos from other games. Please guys, post links to the other fights like this that happen every week at every other SEC game.
Posted by TexasWranglers
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 6:17 pm to
So your only alternative is to wait this jack arse out and hope he moves? I agree calling other officers could have helped but in this particular situation he was asked, tasted twice, and grabbed, threatened a police officer.

What else to accomplish the goal of removing this iditot would have done that? Hoping time will win???
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47655 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 6:23 pm to
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TexasWranglers




the same cop beat the absolute shite out of an old man in a separate incident


you're conveniently not talking about that one
Posted by UnderDog68
Thomasville, Ga.
Member since Sep 2017
2692 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 6:25 pm to
Apparently, security had already told him to leave and he refused. At this point, it’s criminal trespassing, so cops were called over and he acted like a fool.
Posted by UnderDog68
Thomasville, Ga.
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 6:27 pm to
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You leghumpers all said it was a Florida fan. Nope, Georgia hillbilly dipshit. I'm glad they beat his arse. He deserved it.


There’s another one out there of Florida fans being drunk, stupid, and also fighting the cops. We don’t have a monopoly on idiots.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 6:34 pm to
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HOWEVER, they tried deescalation by talking to the man out of his seat


But they didn’t really. They just took the ticket attendant’s word. When the guy said she assaulted him and he held up his phone and said he had video of it they should have tried to figure out what was actually going on. They hadn’t seen it, based on the bodycam footage they just arrived. Instead the guy that ended up tasing him and going Mike Tyson punchout on him just went to grab him.

The cops don’t work for that gate attendant anymore than they work for that guy.

When he said she assaulted him, they should have taken him as seriously as they were taking her. When they arrived, this was a simple trespassing. No actual laws had been broken at that point. There are tens if not hundreds of thousands of incidences when the person trying to trespass someone else is in the wrong. There are videos of it all over youtube, tiktok, and facebook.

Instead of checking up when the guy told them he had been assaulted by her, which is a crime, taser cop just went to grab him by the shoulder. Maybe there is video of the guy being physically threatening before they arrived. But I doubt it as the cops just walked up nonchalant and said very loudly “you gotta leave” and JSO hasn’t released it. This seems like a case of he said/she said until the guy went off the reservation.

When they approached him; he told them he was actually the victim, they should have stopped and at least tried to figure out what in the hell was going on. As the picture below shows, he seemed pretty calm while the attendant is pointing at him. The fact that they completely ignored him when they didn’t know what was going on except for one persons story is bad policing. It just is.

Again, past that point the guy acted like a complete fricking idiot and got his arse kicked.

But the police should not have shown up and 100% believed this woman’s story and not even listened to him after he accused her of a crime and that he had video if it.. Was it bullshite? Likely. But it is their job to figure out what is going on. Instead the cop had his taser drawn on a guy that was just sitting there 15 seconds into the interaction.



This post was edited on 11/5/24 at 6:46 pm
Posted by TexasWranglers
Member since Sep 2024
1655 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 6:46 pm to
One could argue action was required due to inaction by the fan.

He also didn't say I'm going to kill a cop and then immediately the cop punched him. There was repeated requests to leave, tried grabbing his hands, they tried tazing. The punching was the 4th act to remove him. I'd say pretty reasonable in a public forum. They also have no idea what this fan is capable of. Removing him as fast as possible was what was best for the public
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47655 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 6:50 pm to
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TexasWranglers




and for the second time, you are avoiding the fact that the same cop beat the shite out of an elderly Florida fan in a separate incident


I'm guessing I'll have to post this a third time
Posted by TexasWranglers
Member since Sep 2024
1655 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 6:51 pm to
Completely irrelevant. This is the only situation I'm referring to and only one that matters for this thread. If the same cop was a priest or won cop of the year in JSO or is Santa Clauson the side does that matterfor this particular situation, would it make it better in your eyes?
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
20371 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 6:54 pm to
Do we know for sure that the same cop that tased this guy and then beat hell of him is the same cop that was beating the other old man over the back of the head with his handcuffs in the other video? I have seen people say it is he same officer but I haven’t seen confirmation.

I will say he has a wicked left hook.

A hook isn’t a punch that comes naturally, it takes practice to refine. His was well refined.
Posted by TexasWranglers
Member since Sep 2024
1655 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 6:59 pm to
They asked him to calmly leave and speak to them and almost immediately he said he was going to kill a police officer. The time to litigate a he said / she said situation the cops decided isn't in the stands, its in the hall or outside which the white officer asked clearly and calmy several times.

Cops are surrounded by drunk idiots and have been told there's another one by the attendant. If the officer imnedisteky started punching I would agree but clearly they tried as many tactics yo remove this person as possible and every escalation failed. Funny the one that finally worked (physical force through punching) is the one others say too far?
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
20371 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:02 pm to
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This is the only situation I'm referring to and only one that matters for this thread. If the same cop was a priest or won cop of the year in JSO or is Santa Clauson the side does that matterfor this particular situation, would it make it better in your eyes?


Do you want to know how they determine someone’s credit score? It might be shocking.

But hey, since you are here, where are all the other videos of cops going bare knuckled boxing with fans in the aisle? Bonus points if you can post the same cop doing it to two different fans during the same game.

If you watch football, it just isn’t normal for cops to get into fist fights with fans in the stands. I don’t believe that this game, or these fans, were so different from all the other games where this didn’t happen.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47655 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:04 pm to
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Completely irrelevant.



absolute cowardly horse shite response on your part


quote:

This is the only situation I'm referring to and only one that matters for this thread.


cowardly spoiled brat response from you, and again, horse shite

complete horseshite



the new guy Texas Wranglers is a crybaby mama's boy who does not live in the real world
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
20371 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:08 pm to
After your post, I feel like TexasWranglers is probably you Harry. Thank you for pointing that out

Continue.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47655 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:13 pm to
Texas Wrangler ran to his room to cry because he can't understand that it's not okay for him to acknowledge the same cop beating the shite out of an old man in a separate incident


Texas Wrangler is super mad that things aren't going his way


I think his dad was one of those dads who rig City League Little League baseball in his team's favor
Posted by Demosthenian
Zetto, Granite Bowl, & points btwn
Member since Sep 2021
782 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:19 pm to
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literally threatened with murder by that moron.


Give me a fricking break. “Literally”?

It’s sycophants like you and your band of sideline proud boys that obnoxiously bulldoze over what is going on here.

No one is saying that white trash idiot is not a white trash idiot. One that probably needed to get his face punched.

We’re talking about the appropriate use of police force, authoritarian coercion, and what constitutes the excessive use of force by a state actor.

If you can’t dissociate the two, get out of this thread, because you’re an imbecile.
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