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re: Herbstreit Tracking Bama's Decline
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:42 pm to TheScogg
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:42 pm to TheScogg
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I do wonder about that. And I saw it again yesterday. A lot of "gap shooting" by Indiana with slow line play by 'Bama. That Proctor kid ? He's got zero chance at anything in the NFL. He's too slow.
But that scheme 'Bama runs gave him no chance either. I do wonder, I've said it on other threads. Has Cignetti been the first guy to rewind the clock ? Make line play simpler on both sides ? Because it sure looks like hat-on-hat on his O-Line ... no zone scheme ... and Old School "read all you want while we're all in the backfield" to me.
Proctor doesn't really fit the scheme, but he's a huge talent so you have to play him. He's projected as a 1st round pick.
But his ability to handle the edge against faster guys is a huge concern and if he falls, it will likely be for that. Which of course comes down a good bit to his speed.
He likely would have done much better on a line like Indiana, or even at Georgia really.
Indiana got away with some holds yesterday, but they were the coached up kind of holds that you aren't going to see called very often because it's the squared up hat and on a hat blocking where you can keep your arms inside easier.
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:44 pm to 3down10
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Proctor doesn't really fit the scheme, but he's a huge talent so you have to play him. He's projected as a 1st round pick.
Bama should target non-1st round picks.
-3Door
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:45 pm to jangalang
This is beautiful
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:50 pm to NPComb
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:54 pm to 3down10
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Proctor doesn't really fit the scheme, but he's a huge talent so you have to play him. He's projected as a 1st round pick.
I've seen that ... but My Gawd I wonder why. He can't protect in the pass against anything. He can't run-block against any kind of stunting lineman. Now - if they try to read ? Then Proctor smears them.
The hold thing ? Yes, Indiana holds better than any team I've seen in college for a long, long time. Of course, every team holds. But Indiana holds really well.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:58 pm to jangalang
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Bama should target non-1st round picks.
6 in a row
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:08 pm to TheScogg
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I've seen that ... but My Gawd I wonder why. He can't protect in the pass against anything. He can't run-block against any kind of stunting lineman. Now - if they try to read ? Then Proctor smears them.
The hold thing ? Yes, Indiana holds better than any team I've seen in college for a long, long time. Of course, every team holds. But Indiana holds really well.
I'm guessing it's just his overall physical ability for his size. I'm not a great evaluator of talent, so I just go with what they say. Same people who took Manziel 1st round though, and even I knew that was dumb.
He was originally a Saban recruit, left for Iowa when Saban retired, then came back a few months later when the portal opened back up. I'm guessing he was mostly a position of need because DeBoer came in and we had like 30 transfers out etc. And then as I said, he's such a talent you have to play him.
Plus, I don't really remember anyone doing better than him. He wasn't great, but he also didn't seem to be the worst. They shuffled the line around all year and never really got anything that worked.
If we have the same issues next year, then it'll be concerning.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:13 pm to 3down10
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6 in a row
If beating a hapless team keeps you warm at night then you should be extending Deboer tonight.
He needs more time.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:20 pm to 3down10
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by a single game.
Stacking 8 Ls over his first two seasons (following Saban) & rushing for -1 yards in the SECCG is not “one game”.
Nobody’s afraid anymore.
I’m not even trolling you (I would if you were dalton or Cajun or AHF or any of y’all’s willietaylor equivalents) — it’s the truth.
Honestly thought it would take longer than this.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:22 pm to 3down10
quote:Winning NCs obviously. Its not like Bama hasn't been pulling off top 10 teams to have an excuse for a drop off. The NIL isn't going to keep Bama floating off Saban's production while the team is getting embarrassed on the field.
So decline from what exactly? It's not like I ever expected Saban to win 6 national championships. I know that if Alabama keeps pulling off top10 teams, a national championship isn't far off.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:23 pm to jangalang
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If beating a hapless team keeps you warm at night then you should be extending Deboer tonight.
He needs more time.
It beats the shite out of what you are reduced to doing here.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:25 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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Stacking 8 Ls over his first two seasons (following Saban) & rushing for -1 yards in the SECCG is not “one game”.
Nobody’s afraid anymore.
I’m not even trolling you (I would if you were dalton or Cajun or AHF or any of y’all’s willietaylor equivalents) — it’s the truth.
Honestly thought it would take longer than this.
11 wins this year and beat every SEC team they played.
As usual LSU fans are living for next year.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:26 pm to 3down10
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It beats the shite out of what you are reduced to doing here.
Belt to arse By Indiana.
#38-3
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:29 pm to 3down10
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11 wins this year and beat every SEC team they played.
And lost to two SEC teams???
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:30 pm to 3down10
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11 wins this year and beat every SEC team they played.
That’s one side of the story. And honestly it isn’t even the record that is the material issue.
2.5 games down the stretch where you guys either were or were nearly run out of town. Even the Ws second half of the season were just meh.
I am certainly biased, but I don’t think I’m telling any lies here.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:32 pm to captdalton
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No one with a functional brain could have expected Saban like results post Saban. With the introduction of the portal and NIL, not even Saban could deliver Saban like results.
You are seeing it at Georgia. You are seeing it at Ohio State. It has become a game of who gets the best transfer QB.
It is going to be VERY hard for any team to have a true dynasty. It is now the NFL, QB trumps everything.
QB is obviously important, but coaching is equally if not more important plus an OLine to protect that QB and support a running game. Bama had 1 of 3. And that's just on the offensive side. Not good enough. Scheming was huge in that Rose Bowl. Indiana's OC and DC are top notch with lesser talent than Bama. That's coaching. And Cignetti gets all the credit.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:32 pm to 3down10
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11 wins this year and beat every SEC team they played.
Does this mean you had positive net rushing yards in the SEC Championship game?
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:47 pm to jangalang
So Indiana beat Bama's mother lode of 4* and 5* talent with mostly 3* talent.
Yet some think QB is the main difference between winners and losers.
Clue: When did this amazing Indiana turnaround start to happen? With the hiring of a great HC and staff who can identify winning, underrated players and develop them. And out-scheme other coaching staffs.
Google it!
Yet some think QB is the main difference between winners and losers.
Clue: When did this amazing Indiana turnaround start to happen? With the hiring of a great HC and staff who can identify winning, underrated players and develop them. And out-scheme other coaching staffs.
Google it!
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:48 pm to 3down10
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If we have the same issues next year, then it'll be concerning.
Fair. I do think the "we'll run it if they like it or not" days are over. Of course, they were over when Saban tapped Lane Kiffin. Who promptly cost them the game against Ohio St. when all they had to do was keep running the ball.
He had won a bunch. And then he change the formula. Other than Coach K ? That's a really, really unique thing. So rare.
I do hate this - and I saw it again against IU. Why does 'Bama pull an offside Guard AND Tackle ? You wonder why the back rushes to the run side like his hair is on fire ? Don't pull both the guard and tackle.
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