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Posted on 11/8/26 at 9:40 pm to SemperFiDawg
Posted on 11/8/26 at 9:40 pm to SemperFiDawg
It's supposed to represent voters like flashy plays.
But beyond that, Sellers overall numbers are better than Stockton's anyway.
But beyond that, Sellers overall numbers are better than Stockton's anyway.
Posted on 11/8/26 at 9:58 pm to DawginSC
Well, this week the GOAT said who he's voting for....
Posted on 11/8/26 at 10:31 pm to Lonnie Utah
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But beyond that, Sellers overall numbers are better than Stockton's anyway.
He's thrown a few more pass attempts, but his numbers aren't better.
More incompletions. More picks. Fewer TD's. Fewer yards per attempt. Much worse in every efficiency number (QB rating, QBR, etc).
Sellers has a passer rating of 142 this season. That's comparable to John Mateer (139) or Austin Simmons (146).
Passer ratings like that indicate a very average passer overall.
Stockton is at 180. That's the best in the SEC, 4th in the nation.
I believe that heisman voters can get confused by seeing better total numbers rather than efficiency numbers (looking at total pass yards rather than yards per pass attempt). But the only categories Sellers does better than Stockton on a "per attempt" basis is yards per carry when running the ball. Stockton is at 4.4 where Sellers is at 6.1.
I don't think that makes up for the huge edge Stockton has throwing the ball.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 4:13 am to DawginSC
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but his numbers aren't better.
More incompletions. More picks. Fewer TD's. Fewer yards per attempt. Much worse in every efficiency number (QB rating, QBR, etc).
You're looking at just passing #s. I'm looking at total offensive output. In that light sellers is WAY better. 600 yards and 4 tds better.
In the Heisman race, good statistics gets you noticed but a play that people remember years later gets you votes. Show me that play for Stockton. Nobody has yet.
This post was edited on 11/9/26 at 5:14 am
Posted on 11/9/26 at 6:21 am to RTRnFlorida
It will be either Carr, Mensah, or Stockton.
Carr is the leader and will be in the lead when the regular season wraps. Mensah and Stockton will have that extra data point of a conference title game to earn some points. I don't think the ACC game will have the eyeballs or interest for Mensah to overtake him, but Stockton, if he were to show out against a top-5 or so opponent, certainly could.
Carr is the leader and will be in the lead when the regular season wraps. Mensah and Stockton will have that extra data point of a conference title game to earn some points. I don't think the ACC game will have the eyeballs or interest for Mensah to overtake him, but Stockton, if he were to show out against a top-5 or so opponent, certainly could.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 6:37 am to Lonnie Utah
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In the Heisman race, good statistics gets you noticed but a play that people remember years later gets you votes
And, in otherwise "meh" years with no clear standout or when all other things are tied among standout players, the default Heisman vote goes to the QB of the best team.
Carr, Mensah or Stockton will be the most likely to win, unless someone has a big Nov or Conf Championship game moment.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 6:55 am to skrayper
haven't seen smith do anything all season myself, haven't watched a ton of ohio state though
stockton is just a good qb on a very good team
mensah fell apart at the biggest moment worse than arch manning against ND
It'll probably be Carr because ND bias but I haven't seen anything WOW from him either
meanwhile Drew Mestemaker is single handidly bringing okstate back from the nether regions - thats probably my vote
stockton is just a good qb on a very good team
mensah fell apart at the biggest moment worse than arch manning against ND
It'll probably be Carr because ND bias but I haven't seen anything WOW from him either
meanwhile Drew Mestemaker is single handidly bringing okstate back from the nether regions - thats probably my vote
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