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re: Have we accepted that pacemaker was lying about being hit?

Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:42 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:42 pm to
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"Over the top in his description" is a nice way of saying lied.


No. There’s a difference between describing events that happened with language that paints you or someone else in a favorable/negative light vs intentionally asserting something happened that did not happen.

Surely you’re smart enough to grasp this very basic concept. Surely.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 4:43 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:43 pm to
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Imagine the reaction from LSU fans if the situation was reversed.

The situation WAS reversed, here's what happened:

LSU fired Dameyune Craig.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:43 pm to
He said he was punched out of nowhere. That didn't happen
Posted by LC412000
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:43 pm to
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Surely you’re smart enough to grasp this very basic concept. Surely.
You do know you are now seeking the same types of miracles received by A&M
Posted by dbeck
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:46 pm to
Krag tells media he was punched in the pacemaker and that he thought it "tore something in there."
Video shows he was pushed but not punched.
Krag tells police he was not struck and did not need medical attention.
LSU says Krag sought medical attention.

Liar State University, everyone.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:46 pm to
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No. There’s a difference between describing events that happened with language that paints you or someone else in a favorable/negative light vs intentionally asserting something happened that did not happen.

Sure. Like most things, it's a matter of degree. I think Krag crossed the line from painting someone else in a favorable/negative light and crossed into intentionally asserting something happened that did not happen. Both are reasonable conclusions based on the evidence available. Surely you're smart enough to understand that.

Now, is there really any point in continuing this conversation?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:50 pm to
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I think Krag crossed the line from painting someone else in a favorable/negative light and crossed into intentionally asserting something happened that did not happen.


You can think whatever you want, but there’s no real evidence that this is true.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:50 pm to
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He said he was punched out of nowhere. That didn't happen
Well, here's what I know. Fratbo Fisher didn't come out of nowhere. He was right there while Krags was bumrushing Craig.

Also, given the position LSU fans were taking last night...

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Hey don’t start shite if you can’t handle it! If you gonna run across the field act like an arse, shite’s going to go down. Punk should’ve stayed on his side of the field


...the shove didn't come out of nowhere either, seeing as how he obviously came hobbling over there running his dicklicker even as Craig was being escorted away from the original incident.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:50 pm to
Sure there is.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:51 pm to
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He said he was punched out of nowhere.


That’s not what he said

Is it too much to ask for y’all to be accurate in how you recount the man’s words when you’re calling him a liar?
Posted by Crimson Wraith
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:52 pm to
Posted by genro
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:55 pm to
You're right. He said he got nailed, hard, out of nowhere. That's not what happened.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:55 pm to
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That’s not what he said

What, exactly, do you think went down between Krag and Fisher?
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:55 pm to
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You're right. He said he got nailed, hard, out of nowhere. That's not what happened.
Well, it's like LSU fans kept saying. Talk shite, get hit.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:57 pm to
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He said he got nailed, hard, out of nowhere. That's not what happened.


Well the shove was out of nowhere and the only close up we have is in slow mo so we can’t really judge how hard it was. Hard is subjective anyway. So what exactly are you saying didn’t happen?
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 4:57 pm
Posted by genro
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 5:01 pm to
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Well the shove was out of nowhere
This is direct lying, cut and dry
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so we can’t really judge how hard it was. Hard is subjective anyway.
This is being intentionally obtuse, it's slimy and deceptive.

No wonder you can't spot dishonesty. You're not honest yourself
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 5:03 pm to
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Well the shove was out of nowhere and the only close up we have is in slow mo so we can’t really judge how hard it was. Hard is subjective anyway. So what exactly are you saying didn’t happen?
Tell you what, fam. If I see Teen Wolf at Krag's side as legal counsel, I'll know you're on the case.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 5:04 pm to
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This is direct lying, cut and dry


No, it isn’t. The shove came out of nowhere in the sense that it was the first act that escalated the situation into a physical altercation.

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This is being intentionally obtuse, it's slimy and deceptive


It’s not at all, it’s asking for real evidence of lying outside you not personally identifying with a subjective modifier or word that was used. What’s wrong with that? Why are you the ultimate authority of what Steve Kragthorpe means when he says words that can be interpreted in multiple ways?
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 5:04 pm
Posted by Nguyening
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 5:04 pm to
Maybe he was trying to hit me in the face or something and missed.


#muhpacemaker
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 5:06 pm
Posted by Texas Weazel
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 5:06 pm to
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We’d be calling our coaches nephew a dipshit for insitigating the situation and throwing hands



No. Y'all are so predictable.
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