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re: Harsin’s scheme simply doesn’t fit with Auburn’s personnel

Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:46 pm to
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:46 pm to
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Good defense requires experience and sometimes they’ve had a bad mix of experience. It happens. They usually manage to always be top 20-25 but get torched by the best teams on the schedule.

I reckon us dumbfricks on here can suggest that Saban ought to play a simpler scheme so he’d have 10 titles at Alabama instead of just 6 but there’s probably a reason we’re posting on a message board and not coaching an SEC program.



No, you are reverse engineering a season. The talent was there, the schedule was there, but now you are saying the loses were due to a bad mix. Not really, the problem usually happened when they played a decent QB: Tebow, Cam, Marshall, JFF, Wallace, Lawrence, Stidham and Burrow. The Saban/Smart coached secondary was usually the cause of the loss. Saban is just lucky the SEC didn't produce more quality QBs during his tenure.
Posted by FearlessFreep
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:51 pm to
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Sounds like it could be a pretty good comparison.
Not really.

I guess it depends on how much stock you put in the difference between 4* and 5* players as determined by the various recruiting services, which have all seen significant grade inflation in recent years.

We get it - AU will never compete with Bama in recruiting 5* talent. But the difference between Bama’s talent and AU’s is far less than, say, the difference between Ohio State’s and Northwestern’s, or Clemson’s and Wake Forest’s.

I realize you’re trolling, but surely you agree, whether you’re willing to admit to it publicly or not.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:57 pm to
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No, you are reverse engineering a season. The talent was there, the schedule was there, but now you are saying the loses were due to a bad mix. Not really, the problem usually happened when they played a decent QB: Tebow, Cam, Marshall, JFF, Wallace, Lawrence, Stidham and Burrow. The Saban/Smart coached secondary was usually the cause of the loss. Saban is just lucky the SEC didn't produce more quality QBs during his tenure.


Elite QB play is difficult to beat. There’s a shocker. Glad you finally cracked that code.

We have also beaten the absolute dog shite out of some of the best QBs college football has produced over that time.

Matthew Stafford
Tim Tebow
Kyler Murray
Drew Lock
Joe Burrow
Johnny Manziel
Garrett Gilbert
Colt McCoy
Dak Prescott
Kirk Cousins

The list goes on. Yeah, if we played more elite quarterbacks, we’d have an extra couple losses. That’s called football, as it turns out.
Posted by inevitable65
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:44 am to
After a quick look while drinking my morning coffee, you started posting at around 9:40am yesterday and didn’t stop until 11:57pm. I mean you almost literally didn’t stop. ALL DAY. I don’t even think other Bama fans claim you. I believe i am going to go puke now.
Posted by BradPitt
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:41 am to
inevitable65 moments after making his third post:

Posted by OccamsStubble
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:17 am to
Bugeyed Goober doesn't recognize the best RB in the Conference is at Auburn.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:41 am to
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After a quick look while drinking my morning coffee, you started posting at around 9:40am yesterday and didn’t stop until 11:57pm. I mean you almost literally didn’t stop. ALL DAY. I don’t even think other Bama fans claim you. I believe i am going to go puke now.


You don’t win FIVE (5), (V), SECRant awards without your own fan base claiming you, bottom tier SECRant alter who’s wasted 2 of his first 3 posts on little ol’ me, inevitable65.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 8:14 am to
Yes I think the next couple of years could be rough, but the only thing that really matters rn is recruiting. This year will mean nothing record wise. Next year they’ll have to improve, but nothing huge will be required. Then the real assessment begins.

As long as he starts recruiting well. That’s the only thing he’s being judged on rn.
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 8:17 am
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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25901 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:11 am to
I wouldn't call them elite QBs, just good College QBs. Saban has had problems when he faces better than average QBs and really has a problem if they have a surrounding cast. Really something lacking in the SEC during his tenure. It is something that is rarely talked about.
Posted by inevitable65
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:57 pm to
I know I’m not getting roasted by a
Brad Pitt fangirl…
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 3:57 pm
Posted by inevitable65
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:58 pm to
Nobody claims you. You’re just sped.
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 3:59 pm
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 3:59 pm to
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wouldn't call them elite QBs, just good College QBs. Saban has had problems when he faces better than average QBs and really has a problem if they have a surrounding cast. Really something lacking in the SEC during his tenure. It is something that is rarely talked about.




Can you name one college team this doesn't equally apply to?
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:01 pm to
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Nobody claims you. You’re just sped.


Well, 3 of your first 5 posts on this board have been responses to yours truly.

I can send you an autograph if you’d like. Shoot me an email. TuscaloosaTD@gmail.com
Posted by BigTastey
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 4:43 pm to
So they are proud of their junk! More than likely you use the little boy potty on the corner where no one can see you!
Posted by StrongHog
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 5:06 pm to
Harsin is a f*ckin idiot. He's easily the worst coach in the SEC.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 5:07 pm to
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Harsin is a f*ckin idiot. He's easily the worst coach in the SEC.


THE WORST!

You heard the guy.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:05 pm to
From a fanbase that passionately criticized Gus at the same time lusting after him. They even hired a mini-me version of him with Morris. We have all seen it before, a guy who complains about the looks of a girl that blows him off and then he dates someone who looks just like her.
Posted by macjonesgoat
Member since Feb 2021
898 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:23 pm to
Jalen had some accuracy/reading issues in the beginning of his career, but his main issue was always being terrified of turning the ball over. Even when guys were open he was too scared to throw it too them. I think he finally started to get over it when Tua took his spot and he had nothing to lose, and when he went to Oklahoma..
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:33 pm to
You hired an old position coach who’d never even been a coordinator. He’s not even in the same discussion with a coach who has the 3rd highest win % in the nation.
Harsin may actually beat some other SEC teams in addition to our annual rent-a-win vs. Arkansas.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:44 pm to
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Harsin may actually beat some other SEC teams in addition to our annual rent-a-win vs. Arkansas.


He’s going to struggle to win games in the SEC West, IMO. Overall, he’s looking at likely losses vs. Bama, LSU, TAMU, & UGA each year based on talent alone unless he can rebuild his roster very quickly.
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