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re: Greg Robinson vs. Jake Matthews at the NFL combine
Posted on 2/22/14 at 2:57 pm to beatbammer
Posted on 2/22/14 at 2:57 pm to beatbammer
Does Robinson even remember how to pass block?
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Posted on 2/22/14 at 3:05 pm to beatbammer
20 yard shuttle is clearly the most important metric.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 3:18 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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You should add Cyko's results for the hell of it
Done.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 3:40 pm to Glory, Glory
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I’m a Bills fan
I'm sorry.
This post was edited on 2/22/14 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 2/22/14 at 4:14 pm to rangers911
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What exactly is "much more upside" than an expected all pro OT, which is what Matthews is projected as. We are talking about two high level OL not two projects.
Teams would be happy with either but Greg is more talented by a decent margin considering the level of the two. He's stronger, more agile, bigger and faster than Jake. Jake hasn't peaked but he's closer to his peak than Greg is due to how polished his technique is. Greg is outstanding with poor hand placement and technique due to his athleticism. The belief is that if Greg were as polished with hand technique he'd be much better than Jake due to his athleticism. Again teams would be happy with either if they life up to expectations.
He's not more agile. Jake has better shuttle and cone drill times.
The overall numbers also just aren't that significant. Greg is more athletic but Jake is rock solid to excellent in every category. The thing is though Jake is a proven run and pass blocker that excelled under 2 completely different (but both pro style) blocking schemes under Sherman and now Sumlin. Ironically under Sherman he was considered a better run blocker and under Sumlin a better pass blocker. The truth is he is great at both.
Robinson has 2 years playing in essentially the same system that is run heavy and not really utilized in the NFL. He was used to overpower guys and that's great but he has to show how he can adapt to pass blocking and more complex blocking schemes.
Both are great prospects. Both have all the tools to be All Pro players. I just think it is foolish to go on and on about how Robinson is somehow "much" better based on some very small differences on a few strength and speed tests.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 4:18 pm to aggressor
quote:2012's offense was pro-style under Scot Loeffler, bro.
Robinson has 2 years playing in essentially the same system that is run heavy and not really utilized in the NFL
Posted on 2/22/14 at 4:19 pm to aggressor
I really think it is best to let them play NFL football, but I find the combine comparisons interesting and not in our guy is better than your guy way.
This post was edited on 2/22/14 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 2/22/14 at 4:34 pm to TTsTowel
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Robinson has 2 years playing in essentially the same system that is run heavy and not really utilized in the NFL
2012's offense was pro-style under Scot Loeffler, bro.
And it sucked, and no on looked like a top 10 pick in it.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 4:37 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 2/22/14 at 4:42 pm to SammyTiger
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And it sucked, and no on looked like a top 10 pick in it.
I didn't know that Malzahn employed special, non-NFL blocking techniques.
shite, I guess that he's not going in the top 5 now.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 5:01 pm to Yintros
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I didn't know that Malzahn employed special, non-NFL blocking techniques.
If a team wants to run 70% of the time, and roll their QB out the other 30% than i would say that Malzahn's system definitely prepairs OL for the NFL.
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shite, I guess that he's not going in the top 5 now.
He is but he is a boom or bust prospect. Could be good, but you don't know based off os 40's and his college tape.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 5:06 pm to SammyTiger
So, because the offense sucked, Greg Robinson sucked as well?
He was starting material the moment he walked on campus. The talent has always been there. It was just magnified thanks to the great season Auburn had. He also had better coaching in 2013 as well.
He was starting material the moment he walked on campus. The talent has always been there. It was just magnified thanks to the great season Auburn had. He also had better coaching in 2013 as well.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 5:08 pm to TTsTowel
I guess Tre got his 1000 yds on his own
Posted on 2/22/14 at 5:11 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Apparently so.
SammyTiger is reaching.
SammyTiger is reaching.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 5:15 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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I really think it is best to let them play NFL football, but I find the combine comparisons interesting and not in our guy is better than your guy way.
STFU old man...
ROBINZON RULEZ AND MAFFEWS DROOLZ
Posted on 2/22/14 at 5:16 pm to SammyTiger
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roll their QB out the other 30%
WTF offense were you watching, brah?
Cuz it sure as hell wasn't Auburns.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 6:20 pm to TTsTowel
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He was starting material the moment he walked on campus.
They why did he Redshirt?
Matthews came to A&M and was starting at RT a few weeks later in his first game as a True Fish.
I don't question Robinson's raw talent, I'm just saying it isn't significantly better than Matthews and when you consider all the other factors Matthews has just as high of a ceiling. If you look at the great OT's in the NFL they aren't all physical freaks, actually most aren't. Being a great OT isn't about playmaking really, it's about consistency and NOT making mistakes. That's a big reason why Matthews is a great prospect, especially when combined with the reality that he is physically gifted enough to do just about anything an OT could be expected to do and then some.
Both of them could be All Pro for a long time and both are very talented. I just can't get past the "much higher ceiling" comments.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 6:23 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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I guess Tre got his 1000 yds on his own
I guess he got them rushing, and not with Robinson pass blocking.
Something he would have to do a lot more off in the NFL.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 6:27 pm to SammyTiger
He will sammy. He has the work ethic to add to his game. He has all the intangibles a player could need to succeed. Learning technique and improving blocking will come easy to someone with Greg's mentality.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 6:36 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Sammy reeks of jealousy
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