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re: Georgia Tech vs Tennessee - Am I Crazy?

Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:41 pm to
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It wouldn't doom anything. It would suck, but winning the east would still be 100% attainable and that's the goal


If you lose to Georgia Tech, you aren't winning the East. That's just a fact of life. You can use Georgia's record against Tech as proof of that. Since 1992, UGA has lost to Georgia Tech 6 times. We've never won the East in any of those six seasons.

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The only for sure loss on our schedule at this point is Bama. We have the team to compete with every other team on our schedule this year.


So a team that lost 4 SEC games last season... and loses their starting QB from last year... should only for sure lose one game the next year?

Gotcha.

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We get UGA, LSU, Vandy, and South Carolina at home this season.


You also go to Gainesville... a place you're team has lost 6 consecutive times and 13 of the last 15.

If Tennessee catches every single break during the season and plays their absolute best football, they'll go 9-3. If things don't go their way (which is the norm for the last decade), it could be as bad a 5-7.

In all likelihood it ends up somewhere in between, which is why I see 7-5 as the most likely outcome for the 2017 Vols.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted by m45auburn
Auburn
Member since Aug 2014
4467 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:44 pm to
Not crazy to think that, but I think Tennessee is too athletic for GT.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
16801 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:52 pm to
I love seeing you speak in absolutes every time you post like you're the end all be all authority on college football.

I'm going to thoroughly enjoy handing you your 3rd loss in a row to Tennessee this season.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9757 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:57 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 1:01 pm
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9757 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:57 pm to
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If you lose to Georgia Tech, you aren't winning the East. That's just a fact of life. You can use Georgia's record against Tech as proof of that. Since 1992, UGA has lost to Georgia Tech 6 times. We've never won the East in any of those six seasons.


That literally has nothing to do with us. And besides, UGA plays Tech a the end of the year, at that point you've already lost the east. Irrelevant

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So a team that lost 4 SEC games last season... and loses their starting QB from last year... should only for sure lose one game the next year? Gotcha.


I don't say were going 11-1 dumbtard. We beat UGA and UF last year, and we are completely capable of beating SC and Vandy, LSU is not the juggernaut they were 7 years ago. Bama is our only for sure loss at this point in time.

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You also go to Gainesville... a place you're team has lost 6 consecutive times and 13 of the last 15.


Cool. We beat Florida last year and snapped an 11 year streak. We can beat them again. Will we? Who knows. You certainly don't

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If Tennessee catches every single break during the season and plays their absolute best football, they'll go 9-3. If things don't go their way (which is the norm for the last decade), it could be as bad a 5-7.


This is completely pulled out of your arse with no substantiated basis. I wont respond to it.

Like I said, put that hate-boner away


This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 1:03 pm
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9757 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 1:04 pm to
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If things don't go their way (which is the norm for the last decade),


This went our way

Posted by Kraven Moorehed
Franklin
Member since Dec 2015
2336 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 1:05 pm to
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That literally has nothing to do with us. And besides, UGA plays Tech a the end of the year, at that point you've already lost the east. Irrelevant


Yeah, that was a nice little bit of logic coming from the biggest wannabe intellectual try hard on the board.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
16801 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 1:23 pm to
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wannabe intellectual


Perfect description.
Posted by Torch
Northshore Dr
Member since Feb 2017
3436 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 1:42 pm to
Pack it in guys. We already lost the East. No reason to even play this year. Maybe the whole team can take a red-shirt and come back in 2018 to try again, assuming that the off-season predictions don't guarantee another whiff.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 1:57 pm to
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That literally has nothing to do with us.


It has everything to do with you because you play Georgia Tech this year. If your team is not good enough to beat Georgia Tech, you aren't going to make it to Atlanta. It's just a fact.

Tech has produced one solid team since about 2001. In most years, they are mediocre at best.

If Tennessee loses to Georgia Tech in Week 1, I can guarantee you that Tennessee will not be winning the East in 2017.

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Bama is our only for sure loss at this point in time.


That's idiotic. By that logic, then Bama is every SEC team's only for sure loss at this point in time. Yet there are not 13 other teams outside of Bama that could potentially win 11 games this year.

Tennessee is guaranteed 3 losses or more this year.... and in all likelihood it will be 5.

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This is completely pulled out of your arse with no substantiated basis. I wont respond to it.


You just did. And its not "completely pulled out of one's arse" if its the norm for a program.

Tennessee regular season records by year:

2016: 8-4
2015: 8-4
2014: 6-6
2013: 5-7
2012: 5-7
2011: 5-7
2010: 6-6
2009: 7-5
2008: 5-7
2007: 9-3
2006: 9-3

Since college football moved to 12 regular season games, Tennessee has average 6.6 wins per season. It's been an entire decade since your program last went 9-3 during the regular season.

You've had two straight 8-4 seasons, and those both came when returning one of the better QBs in the league.

Now you are replacing your QB... your best RB from last year... your best WR from last year... along with 4 Defensive starters from last year, 3 of which were drafted in the first 4 rounds.

Sure Tennessee is replacing just about anyone that had any talent from last year's team. And sure they haven't finished 9-3 or better in a decade... so of course anyone stating that 9-3 is the absolute ceiling for UT football in 2017 must be "pulling it out of their arse". Yep, no reasoning behind that suggestion at all.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 2:01 pm
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 1:59 pm to
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Pack it in guys. We already lost the East.


^^^Accurate quote for every Tennessee football season during the past decade^^^
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 1:59 pm to
No way. I think UT destroys GT.

The only way they lose by double digits is if their QB sucks.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9757 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:08 pm to
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If Tennessee loses to Georgia Tech in Week 1, I can guarantee you that Tennessee will not be winning the East in 2017.


Unsubstantiated. Your guarantee means nothing to me

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Tennessee is guaranteed 3 losses or more this year.... and in all likelihood it will be 5.


Unsubstantiated

I am saying we can compete with every team on our schedule this year except for bama. I'm not saying we win them all, whats so hard to grasp about that?

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2016: 8-4 2015: 8-4 2014: 6-6 2013: 5-7 2012: 5-7 2011: 5-7


This is an upward trend, correct?

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Sure Tennessee is replacing just about anyone that had any talent from last year's team


You wish. Talent level actually remains pretty stable. We lost some superstars yes but have plenty of talent experience all over the field to compete with everyone on the schedule. QB hurts, but a good O-line will help with that. Plenty of playmakers are WR and RB. Defense got decimated with injuries, weve got those guys back and we have plenty of talent throughout and more people playing their natural positons this season.

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Since college football moved to 12 regular season games, Tennessee has average 6.6 wins per season. It's been an entire decade since your program last went 9-3 during the regular season.


About time were due then right? The majorty of the teams we play are in the SEC east, the majority of the teams we play have question marks too. LSU isn't going to be a world-beater, they have struggles too. We can compete with everyone on our schedule. I'm not saying we got 11-1. You said we were going 7-5. There's a difference.















This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 2:11 pm
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9757 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:09 pm to
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^^^Accurate quote for every Tennessee football season during the past decade^^^


Do things change or stay the same all the time? help me im having trouble remembering.
Posted by Johnny B Goode
Fort Campbell, KY
Member since Jul 2012
2061 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:03 pm to
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I think Tennessee is too athletic for GT.



This and if Jones can stay out of his own way I think Tennessee handles Tech. I like the match up between these two old South rivalries though. Should be fun to watch.
Posted by Torch
Northshore Dr
Member since Feb 2017
3436 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:04 pm to
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...stay the same all the time?


Some do. UGA always under performs based on their recruiting.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41194 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:17 pm to
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If your team is not good enough to beat Georgia Tech, you aren't going to make it to Atlanta. It's just a fact.


I don't think fact means what you think it means.

Tennessee lost to a 7-6 Cal team in 2007 and still won the East, throttling UGA's best team in the last 15 years in the process.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 3:18 pm
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17733 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:19 pm to
No telling but if Vols don't have a d-line who can knock down Tech blockers and their linebackers tackle side line to side line Lyle will have a long afternoon...

but that's just one mans' opinion.
Posted by Torch
Northshore Dr
Member since Feb 2017
3436 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:51 pm to
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If your team is not good enough to beat Georgia Tech, you aren't going to make it to Atlanta.


Our team will be good enough to beat Georgia Tech this season. Doesn't mean it will happen. An out of conference loss to start the season doesn't mean much. Ohio State lost to VT at the start of the season when they won the Natty. Heck, Clemson lost to Pitt last year. So...what was your point again?

Edit: The Gators lost to FSU the last two years, and pretty badly IIRC. Who went to ATL from the east? Must have been some team that was undefeated OOC, right?
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 3:54 pm
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
2588 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:00 pm to
Vols are still loaded with experienced talent.

The drop off doesn't exist that the media is feeding you.

Get ready to be bent over this season.

TN
Offense starters – 2 5*, 6 4*’s, 3 3* (average grade –JR)
Offense backups – 5 4*, 6 3* (average grade -JR)
Defense starters – 2 5*, 8 4*s, 1 3* (average grade JR)
Defense backups – 1 5*, 4 4*’s, 6 3*’s (average grade JR)
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