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re: Georgia is single handedly the most underachieving football program in history

Posted on 11/26/20 at 8:30 am to
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 11/26/20 at 8:30 am to
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Auburn isn't the superior program.


I would agree. Our programs are as mirror image as you can get. that doesn't stop many of their fans from claiming they are superior.

It is usually based on their more recent title.

Don't misunderstand me. I probably get along with more Auburn posters than any other fan base.
Posted by dchog
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/26/20 at 8:31 am to
Elite history that has a storied tradition winning at a very high level for decades. Alabama and Oklahoma are good examples. Georgia has a good history but they were never elite like these two are and are not even close in football history.

Still they are a good football program and nothing to be ashamed a bout it.

Posted by DAWGJAX
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/26/20 at 8:37 am to
What an original post, lot of thought on this take
Posted by Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 11/26/20 at 8:41 am to
Maybe but I've heard Saban Meyer and Spurrier say those exact words

U really dont get where I'm coming from 40 years man

Yea I'd love to win a title just dont think gator fans are as starved to get this 40 yr monkey off they're back like yall

I'm starved for a sec title what ever happens after that cool
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 8:42 am
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
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Posted on 11/26/20 at 8:45 am to
As I said Auburn struggles to produce back to back 10 win seasons and hasn't done It in over 30 years. A title in 2010 doesn't make them superior to Geogia. They certainly are not a powerhouse from a national perspective.

I look at not just national titles but conference titles, winning percentage and total overall wins for a certain period of time.

Georgia has been doing it longer and are much more consistent than Auburn.
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 8:46 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 8:50 am to
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Elite history that has a storied tradition winning at a very high level for decades.


Well...what do you mean by winning at a very high level? For some it means winning National Championships. For others it means winning at least 10 games in most years.
I hate to try to nail you down, but when people us vague terms that everybody has a different definition for it helps to know exactly what we are talking about.

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Alabama and Oklahoma are good examples. Georgia has a good history but they were never elite like these two are and are not even close in football history.

I don't think any Georgia fan has argued otherwise. I have never seen a Georgia fan say we are on par historically with Alabama or Oklahoma.

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Still they are a good football program and nothing to be ashamed a bout it.

Agreed. I think you are using elite when you say National Titles wise, then. True. Georgia is definitely NOT elite.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/26/20 at 8:56 am to
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Maybe but I've heard Saban Meyer and Spurrier say those exact words


Spurrier has won 1 National Championship as a caoch. I'm not sure he is qualified to speak on that.

Saban is but I have never heard him say the losses overshadow the titles. I have no doubt he hates losing, but I would be willing to bet that after they don't win he automatically starts planning for the next opportunity to win. I also have very little doubt that he enjoys every single one of his titles.

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Yea I'd love to win a title just dont think gator fans are as starved to get this 40 yr monkey off they're back like yall
Probably. but you said we would be happy to get one. My contention was that every single fan base would be happy to get one.

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 8:57 am to
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As I said Auburn struggles to produce back to back 10 win seasons and hasn't done It in over 30 years.

That boggles the mind, really. Especially when you consider we have 12 regular season games.

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I look at not just national titles but conference titles, winning percentage and total overall wins for a certain period of time.
That's fair.

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Georgia has been doing it longer and are much more consistent than Auburn.


I could agree here, too.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 11/26/20 at 8:58 am to
It takes a great team and coaching to win a NC as well as some good fortune. 2016 and 2018 Bama teams were bot 14-1 but lost the big ole trophy game thus really not remembered. Both will take many walks to midfield to be honored as SEC Champs in their life but not as NC's.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:05 am to
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It takes a great team and coaching to win a NC as well as some good fortune.


The good fortune part gets lost a lot. People don't realize that just about every national Championship requires a lucky break along the way somewhere. A timely loss from a team ranked higher, a lucky bounce of the ball....something. I don't remember LSU requiring it last year, and I am sure Alabama has had a couple that did not require lucky breaks, but most titles do.
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 9:25 am
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:13 am to
When I talk elite history, I talk a bout winning at a high clip from when modern college football started in the 50s/60s to the present.

For example a program that in each decade is dominant in winning national titles, conference titles and never have that many off years if none at all. They win to a point that they are a storied program even if they do have some down years.

Some programs have shinning moments but often have mediorce years that spoils any type of momentum climbing the ladder to elite status.

Georgia is close to elite status but they need to win national titles and not just the SEC to become in the elite category and so it can't be disputed. You can have an elite status in the present but not an elite history. Clemson is a good example.
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 9:14 am
Posted by dirty bastard
Delacroix, Georgia
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:15 am to
I'm a DAWG and I agree wholeheartedly. We have more than everything needed to be dominate, not competitive, dominate, and can't do jack $hit. These are facts! Most Dawgs will not like me saying this, but it is what it is!
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:22 am to
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They’re lucky they don’t share a division with Auburn and Alabama! Tough!





Yet we never have LSU type luck nationally.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:25 am to
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I'm a DAWG and I agree wholeheartedly. We have more than everything needed to be dominate, not competitive, dominate, and can't do jack $hit. These are facts! Most Dawgs will not like me saying this, but it is what it is!




No, I think most of us realize and agree with this.
Posted by Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
6084 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:36 am to
You can have 1 ring and have opinion lol esp if u rack up sec titles

Pretty sure Mack Brown said the same. Jmo once u get accustomed to winning. 2 losses become a bad season to dickhead fans
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:37 am to
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It was closer to 1980 than 1980 is to 2020, I'll leave it at that.
Yeah. I'm sure that is exactly what you had in mind.


That is precisely what I had in mind.

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There's a reason I decided to be a Georgia fan, and interestingly enough it has everything to do with the way LSU fans act. I never noticed it before, but I transferred back to baton Rouge as an adult with Delta Air lines and my eyes were opened in a really bad way to Louisiana and LSU fans.


I don't understand how what other people do/say could make you dislike a sports team. I mean the fans aren't playing or anything. But I get it, PurpleGold Man Bad and all that.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:38 am to
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You can have 1 ring and have opinion lol esp if u rack up sec titles


You mean like Georgia? We have two, and have wracked up titles, yet an awful lot of Florida fans want to discount our opinions as worthless....so does it matter or not?

What I mean, is with only one title it's a shame Spurrier was not hungrier. Maybe he would have won more?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:42 am to
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That is precisely what I had in mind.


Okay. Then what was the point? I mean.....for a gotcha moment it seems pretty weak.

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I don't understand how what other people do/say could make you dislike a sports team. I mean the fans aren't playing or anything. But I get it, PurpleGold Man Bad and all that.


bad? hardly. Insufferable? Greatly. I have my reasons and it goes directly to the way LSU fans act.

Don't get me wrong....my brother is still a huge LSU fan. painted a room in his basement purple and Gold. I just moved on for my own reasons. (It was a long, long time ago.)
Posted by Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
6084 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:45 am to
Well u may not like it but any sec title with a bunch of white boys I just idk. Just dont really care

Others have their opinion not saying u got all ur sec titles with white guys. Yall killed UF in the 80s

We haven't been able to say shite to y'all till we beat u lol except 2 different QBs 2 different OLs lol
This post was edited on 11/26/20 at 9:47 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 9:49 am to
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Well u may not like it but any sec title with a bunch of white boys I just idk.

What? What years were those titles won and what year was the SEC integrated?

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Others have their opinion not saying u got all ur sec titles with white guys. Yall killed UF in the 80s

I would hope not since we were well integrated...and well, Herschel.

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We haven't been able to say shite to y'all till we beat u lol except 2 different QBs 2 different OLs lol


When Florida woke up they woke up and won big time. nothing but respect for what your program has done, and your overall program is great, too. Florida has a great overall athletic program.
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