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Posted on 3/8/16 at 5:04 pm to TouchdownBama
Posted on 3/8/16 at 5:04 pm to TouchdownBama
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Ask Saban. He would flat out tell you who he rather have. Different type back as well. Fournette is a top 3 in country. I would put Chubb in top 15
They're both probably top-3 in the country along with Dalvin Cook.
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 5:05 pm to TouchdownBama
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Different type back as well
Yeah Fournette gets punched in the mouth and can't respond. Chubb actually will fight for the men on the field with him.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 5:25 pm to RB10
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You do know there are more stats than just YPC, right? He was "markedly" better in every category other than YPC, which he was only marginally better. Check my post with their stats listed.
As I said in that eRlier post, you're clinging to YPC because it's the only star that's even close to being even.
Like most people, I believe YPC and TDs per attempt are the best gauge.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 5:29 pm to joeyb147
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Like most people, I believe YPC and TDs per attempt are the best gauge.
what other metric would you use for a RB? total yards and exclude rushing attempts?
YPC, yards from scrimmage, TDs/attempt, Yards after contact.. those are the only stats that matter for a RB
Posted on 3/8/16 at 5:33 pm to joeyb147
Show me in any post where I said said YPC wasn't the best. I'll wait.
While it is the best, it isn't the end all of determining who's better.
For instance, TDs per game is a pretty important stat.
While it is the best, it isn't the end all of determining who's better.
For instance, TDs per game is a pretty important stat.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 3/8/16 at 5:46 pm to RB10
I mean, if we want YPC to be the only factor then Derrius Guice is the best back in the league.
That was fun.
That was fun.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:02 pm to RB10
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I mean, if we want YPC to be the only factor then Derrius Guice is the best back in the league.
That was fun.
There obviously needs to be a certain level of carries for such a thing to be significant, and a few carries per game is far below any reasonable threshold.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:07 pm to dallasga6
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'15 totals vs common opponents
LF...39 for 189...4.9ypc...2td's
Chubb...41 for 305yds...7.4ypc...3td's
quote:Damn. Thread should have ended here. That is the 2 most important stats for RBs according to LSU fans.
'14 totals vs common opponents
LF...57 for 231yds...4.1ypc...3td's
Chubb...83 for 678yds...8.2ypc...6td's
totals for 6 games vs common opponents
LF...87 for 420yds...4.8ypc...5td's
Chubb...124 for 983yds...7.9ypc...9td's
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:11 pm to djsdawg
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There obviously needs to be a certain level of carries for such a thing to be significant, and a few carries per game is far below any reasonable threshold.
Shocker.
YPC is all that matters until it doesn't help further your narrative.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:15 pm to RB10
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For instance, TDs per game is a pretty important stat.
Tds per carry is a more precise and meaningful measurement:
91/7 = 11.38 touches per
Td or chubb
300/23 = 13.04 LF
Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:19 pm to djsdawg
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Tds per carry is a more precise and meaningful measurement:
Moving the goal posts again?
Shocker, again.
ETA: By the way, your math is terrible.
92/7 = 13.1
Yet another stat Fournette leads in 2015.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:22 pm to RB10
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There obviously needs to be a certain level of carries for such a thing to be significant, and a few carries per game is far below any reasonable threshold.
Shocker.
YPC is all that matters until it doesn't help further your narrative.
Shocker on 2 levels:
- You disagree with a reasonable point without a substantive explanation.
- You don't understand statistical significance. Stsrting to see the impact of at STAT class you missed or got a C in.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:24 pm to RB10
Let's recap my day in this thread, shall we?
My first post in this thread today (9:47 A.M.):
"Chubb was clearly better in 2014. Fournette was clearly better in 2015, and yes, that's even if you only count before Chubb got hurt.
This should be the end of the argument. When healthy, you're splitting hairs between the two."
Where we are now:
Chubb was clearly better in 2014. Fournette was clearly better in 2015, through 5 games (Chubb's injury).
Productive.
My first post in this thread today (9:47 A.M.):
"Chubb was clearly better in 2014. Fournette was clearly better in 2015, and yes, that's even if you only count before Chubb got hurt.
This should be the end of the argument. When healthy, you're splitting hairs between the two."
Where we are now:
Chubb was clearly better in 2014. Fournette was clearly better in 2015, through 5 games (Chubb's injury).
Productive.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:25 pm to djsdawg
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You don't understand statistical significance. Stsrting to see the impact of at STAT class you missed or got a C in.
Says the guy who can't do simple math
Divide 92 by 7 again. Tell me what you get this time.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:27 pm to Roses of Crimson
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Thought he was good but wasn't wowed with anything he did.
I'm sure this played wowed you if for nothing else, it was done against the trash auburn.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:28 pm to RB10
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Tds per carry is a more precise and meaningful measurement:
Moving the goal posts again?
Shocker, again.
ETA: By the way, your math is terrible.
92/7 = 13.1
Yet another stat Fournette leads in 2015.
The goal posts are always on the side of logic and reason, so they remain in the same place. Forgive me for giving chubb credit for a rushing td when it was receiving:
91/7 = 13
300/23 = 13.04
92/7 = 13.14
Counting chubbs injury play or not, Thats splitting hairs.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:30 pm to TouchdownBama
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I would put Chubb in top 15
Try harder baw.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:34 pm to djsdawg
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The goal posts are always on the side of logic and reason, so they remain in the same place. Forgive me for giving chubb credit for a rushing td when it was receiving:
What are you talking about? You divided 91 carries, when he has 92 for 2015, by 7 and came to a number that wasn't even close.
ETA: What did you do for Fournette's numbers? Nothing you posted is correct....
ETAA: I see, you have total touchdowns divided by only rushes.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:45 pm to bama will rise again
Patrick Peterson, Tyrann Mathieu, Odell Beckham, Jr., Jarvis Landry, Jeremy Hill. All doing very well in the NFL right now.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 11:33 am to RB10
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Shocker.
YPC is all that matters until it doesn't help further your narrative.
All that matters is if the point is reasonable or not:
- YPC isn't always a reasonable comparison, which is the case for a backup player who rarely gets carries. Since we weren't comparing such players, I didnt need to make that point.
- Where YPC becomes very meaningful is with RB's who get many carries, who are often starters.
This post was edited on 3/9/16 at 11:38 am
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