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re: Former Arkansas baseball player, Rays catcher, Jean Ramirez dies 'unexpectedly' at 28.

Posted on 1/13/22 at 12:04 am to
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 1/13/22 at 12:04 am to
WTF man?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104710 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 6:48 am to
Across all NCAA sports, there have been zero players collapse on the field of play since the vaccine was i introduced

Last year before the vaccine, a Florida player collapsed with a heart issue

That is proof the vaccine prevents heart issue

Study brought to you by Best Sciencing


There was 7 big ten athletes that had to sit out of play last year due to covid induced myocarditis. There have been zero miss due to vaccine induced myocarditis

-Dude Science
This post was edited on 1/13/22 at 6:50 am
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
33587 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:00 am to
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Danish player who had a heart attack during a game before the vaccines existed


Lol, the vaccine didn't exist in June?

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His stupidity would be sad if it wasn't so funny



Love this lack of self awareness.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104710 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:08 am to
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Lol, the vaccine didn't exist in June?

It existed

But it had barely been released to those in his age bracket here in the states, Europe was behind us

Anyway, both sides used Erriksons collapse

Karen’s screamed “HE HAD COVID”

Political Talk posters screamed “HE HAD THE VACCINE”

His physician had to come out an release he never ever had covid nor the vaccine. He had a congenital issue

How would you like to explain all the NCAA athletes that had to sit out with covid induced myocarditis, but none for vaccine induced myocarditis?

Or the MLB pitcher that missed 4 months for covid 19 myocarditis.
This post was edited on 1/13/22 at 7:12 am
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
33587 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:11 am to
I don't trust anybody on either side so I don't know if he had COVID, the vaccine, or truly a congenital issue but I am sure the national team would have had access to the vaccine before regular people of that age.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104710 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:14 am to
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I don't trust anybody on either side so I don't know if he had COVID, the vaccine, or truly a congenital issue but I am sure the national team would have had access to the vaccine before regular people of that age.
You don’t trust anybody, you just want it to be the vaccine. Got it
Posted by BRtoATL
Bogota
Member since Aug 2009
232 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:14 am to
Have a look at Pfizer's trial data.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104710 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:18 am to
So trial participants deaths were 15 and placebo had 14

9 and 5 specifically for cardio events


That pretty much shows no increased risk over their sample size with numbers that small
This post was edited on 1/13/22 at 7:19 am
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
33587 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:18 am to
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You don’t trust anybody, you just want it to be the vaccine


I don't care what it was in his case but the people who act like it's not a possibility are part of the problem.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104710 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:20 am to
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I don't care what it was in his case but the people who act like it's not a possibility are part of the problem.


Im sure you are this open about the possibility of it being covid-19 causing all these deaths
Posted by BRtoATL
Bogota
Member since Aug 2009
232 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:27 am to
Then 5 more trial deaths after unblinding. So how does this data prove a reduction in cardiac issues and deaths?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104710 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:28 am to
Good point. That study would suggest the vaccine prevents all heart issues(I know that isn’t true)
This post was edited on 1/13/22 at 7:29 am
Posted by themicah85
DALLAS TX
Member since Jul 2015
3506 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:41 am to
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I don't care what it was in his case but the people who act like it's not a possibility are part of the problem.

Im sure you are this open about the possibility of it being covid-19 causing all these deaths


Why do you find it so taboo to even question there possibly being some sort of long term affects on a vaccine that is so young that no one could possibly know the answer? I mean there have been a ton of FDA approved medicines that have later been recalled because they found out years after the side affects were much worse than the ailment the medicine was made to help with. Its not like this is some kind of new idea, it became that way when the vaccine started being used as a political line. I personally dont care if you want to go get vaccinated 3x a day every day for the rest of your life, it doesnt mean that its impossible this one year old vaccine could possibly being causing some sort of issues.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104710 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:45 am to
There is no data or evidence at all of there being the case. If you want to think about the possibility, or hope it to be the case, go right ahead

Same thing as a year ago “How can you possibly know covid-19 won’t cause issues down the road for people who had mild or asymptomatic cases”
This post was edited on 1/13/22 at 7:47 am
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
33587 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:46 am to
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Im sure you are this open about the possibility of it being covid-19 causing all these deaths


Less so based on my personal experience which, when everyone is full of shite, is all I can go on. I personally know two young healthy people who have suffered vaccine induced incidents. I know zero people who have had anything other than cold/flu like symptoms from COVID.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
33587 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:55 am to
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Same thing as a year ago “How can you possibly know covid-19 won’t cause issues down the road for people who had mild or asymptomatic cases”


I don't, but I'm not going to go seek out COVID and inject it in myself in order to find out.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104710 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:58 am to
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I don't, but I'm not going to go seek out COVID and inject it in myself in order to find out.
You don’t have to. It will 100% find you. Estimates currently are 83% of Alabama has already been infected
Posted by themicah85
DALLAS TX
Member since Jul 2015
3506 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:00 am to
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There is no data or evidence at all of there being the case. If you want to think about the possibility, or hope it to be the case, go right ahead

Same thing as a year ago “How can you possibly know covid-19 won’t cause issues down the road for people who had mild or asymptomatic cases”


I mean, its only been a year so if any problems exist of any type with the vaccine, (Im talking if it gave you bad breath or made your fingernails yellow, much less heart disease) we probably wouldnt have any data linking the two yet. The CDC website has a whole section on myocarditis being potentially linked to the pfizer and moderna, there is acknowledgment of it out there. Again, if you want to get every vaccine and booster that will be provided then go right ahead. That really isn't any of my business.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
33587 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:07 am to
I'm in GA and IDGAF.

Oh, and newsflash. Even if I had the vaccine it wouldn't stop me from getting it anyway so why inject myself with something with no benefit and a potential risk of harm no matter how small the risk is?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104710 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:11 am to
Dude, don’t get the vaccine. I don’t give a shite. But have confidence in your decision and don’t post and buy into ridiculous reasons why

If you have confidence you don’t need to fall back on bullshite
This post was edited on 1/13/22 at 8:12 am
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