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re: Former Alabama player Quinton Dial showing off his patriotic side tonight
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:19 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:19 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
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GatorNation4Lyfe
Learn to read because I have freely said that it is AA on AA issue that I am addressing. In regards to the 6% = 52% of murders that comes straight from the FBI. And per capita the violent crime rate is not comparable. What I am saying is rather than focus on the extremely rare/often justified (1.8 per week) let's focus on fixing the all to common (12.25 per day)....then again that would require real work and being introspective which isn't nearly as profitable as the click-bait.
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Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:19 am to justausedcarguy
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I'm not against anyone standing up for a cause, but there is a correct time and place. I think Kapernick chose the wrong forum. And I believe in the long run it will cost him. I don't come to tRant to talk politics and I don't care about any athletes political agenda.
I have no idea what he's protesting and I don't agree with the manner that he's protesting... BUT I'm not Kapernick. I have no idea what's going on with him in his life. I can't tell him when is the right time or place. I can't tell him to be quiet about something he believes in. I'm just flabbergasted how many people (mainly white) are speaking up against him? Why? Are we a free country? Why are so many people mad for what he's doing? That's very disturbing...
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:23 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
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but they are only killing other black men and only in highly concentrated drug areas.
Well shite, if that's the case it okay then. Let's focus all of our attention then on the extremely rare circumstance of unjustified LE homicide.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:24 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
I don't understand how bouncers and security guards at bars and night clubs are able de-escalte, detain or remove, drunken patrons without killing them while cops struggle to perform basic traffic stops without them escalating.
Also when did the threshold for proving your life was actually in danger become so low.
Also when did the threshold for proving your life was actually in danger become so low.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:24 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
Possibly because it is a free country. This is not his personal platform...it is his job.
Time and place
Time and place
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:25 am to ABearsFanNMS
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Learn to read because I have freely said that it is AA on AA issue that I am addressing. In regards to the 6% = 52% of murders that comes straight from the FBI. And per capita the violent crime rate is not comparable. What I am saying is rather than focus on the extremely rare/often justified (1.8 per week) let's focus on fixing the all to common (12.25 per day)
You NEVER, EVER said that black men were killing other black men with your stat. You just keep saying that 6% are responsible for killing the majority of people which is misleading, which is your agenda. You are twisting facts to spew your hate. Now, you want to tell black people what they should focus on fixing because to you 500 black people being killed by the police each year is extremely rare and most likely justified. Who the fukk are you??? So black men are killing 5,000 but cops are killing 500 (10%) and that's insignificant to you. Fukk off.
One thing I do know... You don't give a damn about fixing any of it but you sure like to tell others what they should do.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:31 am to justausedcarguy
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Possibly because it is a free country. This is not his personal platform...it is his job.
The NFL has already come out and said that his job does not require him to stand for the national anthem.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:32 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
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You NEVER, EVER said that black men were killing other black men with your stat.
Oh really....color me confused then with ab exact quote from one of my earlier posts:
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On average there are 96 African Americans killed by law enforcement annually. While there is over 6,000 African Americans murdered by African Americans. Why aren't you concerned about that?
Once again learn to read!
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:33 am to ABearsFanNMS
I can't say this enough!
What happens when all black athletes decide to go to black universities?
Fill those stadiums sell those t-shirts they all sign up to wear Jordan brand and sign the 500 million dollar tv contacts from espn for the swac.
Then what?
The SEC would be toast!!!
So Stfu all of you, before you wake people up.
What happens when all black athletes decide to go to black universities?
Fill those stadiums sell those t-shirts they all sign up to wear Jordan brand and sign the 500 million dollar tv contacts from espn for the swac.
Then what?
The SEC would be toast!!!
So Stfu all of you, before you wake people up.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:34 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
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500 black people being killed by the police each year is extremely rare and most likely justified.
Secondly where are you getting this data because the FBI data say the average since 2009 is 96 African American annually have been killed by LE. The Guardian database says as of today 187 AA's have been killed by LE. That sure isn't near half of what you are claiming as fact. Get your figures straight before you jump into a debate.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 12:48 am
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:36 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
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The NFL has already come out and said that his job does not require him to stand for the national anthem.
Time will tell. Let's see how much longer he keeps his job.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:43 am to ABearsFanNMS
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Oh really....color me confused then with ab exact quote from one of my earlier posts:
Which is why I said you are distorting facts to suit your own agenda. Every time you posted that stat, you never said that it was black on black. Totally misleading... But, we're supposed to go back to a previous post to comprehend what you're really trying to say? Stop being dumb. You quote a stat, you need to be accurate in your quote.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:44 am to GatorReb
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Gtfo of here with that shite. Kap is an unpatriotic pos. If he really cared then he should donate ALL but like 30K of his salary so he can live like the people he is claiming to be equal to
Agree 100%. I don't hold a school responsible for the actions of a dumbass unpatriotic POS but no doubt he is a POS.
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:51 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
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and to be clear... ~5,000 to 6,000 black men are killed each year, predominantly by other black men. ~500 to 600 black people (mostly men) are killed each year by the police, 50 to 100 of them unarmed. We don't need to go into each and every detail, I don't know, maybe most of them deserve to be shot BUT 5,000, 500, or even 50 is too many for any race in this country.
What we don't hear is that more white people are killed by the police than black. Once again, I don't know the details and maybe they deserve to be shot BUT 1,000 people a year being killed by the police is a problem, EVEN if the police are right in all cases. What can we do to help prevent these incidents? I know there's a lot of people out there doing dirt but how do we educate and bring up the next generation, so that we reduce the numbers of idiots out there with no hope committing stupid crimes?
What bothers me about your post is how naive you are. I walked into a convenience store 38 years ago while it was being robbed. Two men with guns were standing at the register and a lone policeman saw the robbery thru the glass storefront. The cop confronted both robbers at the front door and there was a shoot out. The cop shot both robbers and got shot himself. One of the robbers died - the cop and the other robber survived. The cop was white and both robbers were black. This happened in Gadsden Alabama and it wasn't on the network news. There weren't any protests or football players dissing the National Anthem. Two bad guys got what was coming to them and a cop risked his life to protect the public from them. The cop didn't get a million dollar endorsement deal. He didn't even get a raise. He lost his kidney and quit the police force a couple of years later and became a high school coach.
The people that are getting shot are criminals committing crimes. Anyone on this forum serving the public as a cop who was confronted with two robbers with guns that didn't risk their life fighting back with deadly force is a coward. I'd hate to have you protecting me or anyone else if real criminals with guns are involved.
BLM is extorting the media with racism when the real problem is crime and punishment. A criminal committing a crime is dangerous and deserves what he gets. The public deserves safety not criminals.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 12:55 am
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:52 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
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Which is why I said you are distorting facts to suit your own agenda
How can I distort a fact that I clearly posted several times earlier. Sorry you joined the debate late and were too lazy to read the entire thread before jumping in and making a fool of yourself. My point remains, whether it's 96 or 187 AA deaths attributed to LE annually, it is still a drop in the bucket to the +6,0000 AA on AA deaths annually. So wouldn't it be better to focus on that larger number. Dywane Wade sure thinks so
Posted on 9/13/16 at 12:56 am to ABearsFanNMS
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Secondly where are you getting this data because the FBI data say the average since 2009 is 96 African American annually have been killed by LE. Get your figures straight before you jump into a debate.
I suggest you do more research before you start trying to educate us... You must be looking at unarmed black people killed. But you don't think it's enough people to complain about anyway. That's just great.
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This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 1:30 am
Posted on 9/13/16 at 1:03 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
I live in New Orleans and used to run a large business in the French Quarter. The week before Hurricane Katrina one of my employees living in the 9th Ward was sitting at her dining room table with her children and stray gunfire from drug gangs killed her daughter sitting beside her at the dinner table. This is the kind of crime that is going unchecked in America. And now - today when police fight back trying to save lives and get one of the thugs committing these horrible crimes the cry from BLM is police brutality. BULLSH*T!
I defy anyone supporting BLM to put on a badge and try to stop these senseless killers without deadly force. If you don't stop them with deadly force they'll kill you and anyone else nearby. That's reality.
I defy anyone supporting BLM to put on a badge and try to stop these senseless killers without deadly force. If you don't stop them with deadly force they'll kill you and anyone else nearby. That's reality.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 1:06 am
Posted on 9/13/16 at 1:04 am to ABearsFanNMS
Might as well give up, some people are so naive they'll believe anything they hear.
I would hate to be a policeman and know that I couldn't even defend myself. But such is the world we live in. Their tune will change when all the police decide to walk off the job. Who will protect their protests against police when there are none.
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Kapernick is a blowhard....
I'm out.
I would hate to be a policeman and know that I couldn't even defend myself. But such is the world we live in. Their tune will change when all the police decide to walk off the job. Who will protect their protests against police when there are none.
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Kapernick is a blowhard....
I'm out.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 1:06 am
Posted on 9/13/16 at 1:16 am to 12thFairway
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I walked into a convenience store 38 years ago
So you've formed an opinion based on what you experienced 4 decades ago. I do not disagree with you but look at this website and tell me do you really think people get what they deserve???
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Posted on 9/13/16 at 1:19 am to ABearsFanNMS
There are over 40 million black people in the US and less than 800,000 police officers. By sheer number of volume alone there is going to be more killing of blacks by blacks than cops by blacks.
Blacks go to jail when they kill blacks. Cops get paid vacations.
I don't know what point you are trying to prove, pretending like blacks aren't treated differently by law enforcement is disingenuous.
I would also be interested in hearing you explain away how whites are much more likely to sale drugs, but blacks are twice as likely to be arrested for it. The disparity in sentencing is down right criminal as well.
I don't know what the solution is, but trying to silence those who speak out against it because you are annoyed or uncomfortable is not helping.
Blacks go to jail when they kill blacks. Cops get paid vacations.
I don't know what point you are trying to prove, pretending like blacks aren't treated differently by law enforcement is disingenuous.
I would also be interested in hearing you explain away how whites are much more likely to sale drugs, but blacks are twice as likely to be arrested for it. The disparity in sentencing is down right criminal as well.
I don't know what the solution is, but trying to silence those who speak out against it because you are annoyed or uncomfortable is not helping.
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