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Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:00 pm to burke985
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Bama wasn’t a conference champion when they rematched LSU so that point is null and void and a bad argument
I just cited the CFP published protocals and you respond talking about the BCS era? I don’t even know how to have a conversation with people like this.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:04 pm to elposter
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just cited the CFP published protocals and you respond talking about the BCS era? I don’t even know how to have a conversation with people like this.
There was still a human element to the formula…so
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:14 pm to burke985
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They thought so lowly of FSU they had them ranked #4 going into championship weekend after the Florida game they coulda dropped them then. All they did was win their game against all odds, and the media did their thing for Bama. Their logic they used is pathetic, the best team in the NFL don’t always win the Super Bowl
There were games left to be played. FSU finished the season with the lowest SOS and least impressive championship win. Their schedule should have been enough to let people know they don’t belong. The way they played vs Florida and Louisville simply proved it, especially when compared to what Bama and Texas did and their respective strength of schedules to complement.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:21 pm to UltimaParadox
quote:I mean, he's not wrong.
Did you think about this all day at work?
the truth is the truth: it's far more of a travesty that bama AND georgia aren't in, than the fact that a trash arse ACC team is not.
in a fair and just world, Georgia and Alabama would both be in. Georgia is a better team than FSU, Washington and Michigan 9 days out of 10.
it's not wrong to say that if they were doing it right, they'd put Georgia in too. hell, they've already caused a nationwide melt, if they had any objective sense they might as well put Georgia in too and melt it all the way down, because it's THE TRUTH: THE BEST TEAMS WHO OUGHT TO PLAY FOR THE TITLE ARE BAMA AND GEORGIA.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:22 pm to Tuscaloosa
I am amazed at the endless discussion on this subject. FSU earned their way into the Playoff. No one questions this. But without their QB no one believes they can win it. With only 4 teams to choose from the committee chose Bama. Because Bama improved and got their shite together. Want to blame someone blame Freeze for shitty coaching when he had Bama beat.
My hemorrhoids bothered me more than this subject today. Can we discuss basketball or something else?
My hemorrhoids bothered me more than this subject today. Can we discuss basketball or something else?
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:25 pm to burke985
Bama beating UGA did not keep FSU out. Texas winning their conference did
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:29 pm to AZHorn
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What is your argument with Texas?
The argument is not Texas vs Bama, it’s Texas vs FSU
If UGA beat Bama, FSU STILL GETS LEFT OUT
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:29 pm to burke985
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There was still a human element to the formula…so
And? Go ahead, try to articulate complete thoughts so we can get somewhere.
We were discussing the CFP committee published protocols about why they ranked it Texas, Alabama, FSU and Georgia in that order. You then, for some reason, started talking about the BCS era and formula from years before the CFP even existed as if it has any relevance.
I think what is happening here is some sort of 1/9/12 PTSD that is causing you to lose time/experience flashbacks and make completely non sequitor references and arguments.
You really should read the CFP protocals (remember that has nothing to do with the BCS era from 12 years ago) and it might help you see exactly why the CFP properly ranked FSU in front of Georgia which, if you even remember at this point, was the question posited in the OP.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:31 pm to FoTownBam
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Bama beating UGA did not keep FSU out. Texas winning their conference did
I really don’t care FSU is out I’m more bothered by the logic they used to exclude them because they contradicted themselves by letting a team like Washington in. We have already established that being undefeated in a supposed “power 5 conference” is not a shoe in for playoffs. Washington literally plays nobody also, they beat an overrated Oregon team twice what else did they do to deserve to be in the final 4?
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:36 pm to burke985
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I really don’t care FSU is out I’m more bothered by the logic they used to exclude them because they contradicted themselves by letting a team like Washington in. We have already established that being undefeated in a supposed “power 5 conference” is not a shoe in for playoffs. Washington literally plays nobody
It’s quite simple. Washington’s SOS is WAY better than FSU’s. SOS is the second factor in the CFP protocol for distinguishing between comprable teams. You should REALLY read the protocols.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:36 pm to elposter
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You really should read the CFP protocals (remember that has nothing to do with the BCS era from 12 years ago) and it might help you see exactly why the CFP properly ranked FSU in front of Georgia which, if you even remember at this point, was the question posited in the OP.
They have also admitted that the “eye test” is a factor. So by your “eye” do you think the three teams that aren’t bama are better than Georgia? I mean they won 29 straight times in a row and only lost by 3
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:38 pm to burke985
I understand your logic, and really Michigan’s schedule was the worst of the bunch, but the injury to the quarterback is a legitimate reason. Fair, no, but legitimate. That’s not a great team without Travis. Fact is, the committee could never possibly get this right this season. There’s no right answer. The anger should not be directed at them, it should be directed at the commissioners of the ACC, BIG, and PAC that voted against the 12 team playoff
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:41 pm to FoTownBam
My point is since they put a team like Alabama in, they should have put Georgia in using their logic. Forget FSU they got screwed either way Herbstreit had this scenario happening as a possibility even if they had Travis
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:43 pm to burke985
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They have also admitted that the “eye test” is a factor. So by your “eye” do you think the three teams that aren’t bama are better than Georgia? I mean they won 29 straight times in a row and only lost by 3
I think Georgia is at least comparable to the 6 teams that seem to have been in contention for the top 4 spots. However, because they are the only one of the 6 without a conference championship and they have no head to head wins, they slot in at 6 based on those protocols THAT YOU SHOULD REALLY READ.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:49 pm to elposter
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The criteria to be provided to the selection committee must be aligned with the ideals of the commissioners, presidents, athletic directors and coaches to honor regular season success while at the same time providing enough flexibility and discretion to select a non-champion or independent under circumstances where that particular non-champion or independent is unequivocally one of the four best teams in the country.
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THAT YOU SHOULD REALLY READ.
So Georgia isn’t unequivocally one of the best 4 teams?
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:52 pm to jonnyanony
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Just so I follow your logic ... you think it's better if two 1-loss teams get in over FSU than just a single 1-loss team?
No. They [quite literally] simply said the committee's decision to bump Bama but not also UGA is inconsistent. Either keep FSU or bump, say, Washington as well as fsu and replace with UGA and Bama. They did NOT say they want fsu to drop more.
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