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re: For those that think Texas A&M will fall back to earth after JM leaves....

Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:30 pm to
Posted by KaiserSoze99
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:30 pm to
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And yet the best A&M could manage was 3rd place in the West. I rest my case.

Dude can't play defense too.


See, this is why the whole "A&M will suck after JFF" argument is pure dumbassary.
Posted by Texas Tea
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:31 pm to
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Exactly, difference is they won Championships.




You said "they" as if you're referring not to a single player.
Posted by Edearl Watson
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:32 pm to
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Dude can't play defense too



Excuses are just that.
Cam Newton didn't have the luxury of a great defense. Yet he managed. The 2 games JFF lost last season weren't because of the defense. UF only scored 20, LSU only scored 24. JFF could only manage 17 and 19 pts respectively.
This post was edited on 10/16/13 at 5:34 pm
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:32 pm to
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Yet a year later they're 5-1. Can A&M collapse and rebuild like that? Guess we'll see in 2015.

DID IT. MULTIPLE TIMES. You're pulling this stuff out of your arse. What you really want to say is that A&M is a shitty program, right? You're really just pissed off that A&M didn't suck dong in the SEC like you hoped, because you were too prideful, isn't that right?
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:33 pm to
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Excuses are just that.
Cam Newton didn't have a great defense. Yet he managed. The 2 games JFF lost last season weren't because of the defense. UF only scored 20, LSU only scored 24.


The rest of the SEC sucked?


Chizik was a defense guy though, wasn't he?
Posted by Texas Tea
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:33 pm to
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Cam Newton didn't have a great defense



Don't think this is even true.
Posted by Edearl Watson
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:40 pm to
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Don't think this is even true.


Auburn was ranked 60th in total defense in 2010
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This post was edited on 10/16/13 at 5:57 pm
Posted by Jaydeaux
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:44 pm to
I'm sure it's been tossed out but you should finish higher than 3rd in the west before talking about being Auburn
Posted by Texas Tea
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:45 pm to
We'd kill to be 60th
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:46 pm to
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I'm responding to people who keep saying that 5 stars dont mean the player is good because there have been busts before.


5 stars is a PROJECTION of talent.
Posted by BamaFatigue
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:50 pm to
aTm won't fall from a very high tree except maybe for the one that's in their imaginations. What have they accomplished so far?
Posted by Texas Tea
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:53 pm to
11-2 season, first freshman Heisman trophy winner, etc.
Posted by Edearl Watson
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:53 pm to
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We'd kill to be 60th


Texas A&M was ranked 57th in total defense 2012.
And Auburn was 60th in 2010.
That excuse just doesn't hold up, sorry.


This post was edited on 10/16/13 at 6:03 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:56 pm to
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Auburn was ranked 60th in total defense in 2010



They were #1 against the run in the sec. And #1 in turnovers. Auburn 2010 defense didn't suck. They shut down Oregon.
Posted by BamaFatigue
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:58 pm to
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They were #1 against the run in the sec. And #1 in turnovers. Auburn 2010 defense didn't suck. They shut down Oregon.
Objectivity. Refreshing, especially from an LSU fan.
Posted by Edearl Watson
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:59 pm to
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They were #1 against the run in the sec. And #1 in turnovers. Auburn 2010 defense didn't suck. They shut down Oregon.


That was not my point. Texas Tea said JFF was the greatest ever. I was pointing out that Cam won a N.C. without a great defense.
But JFF can't with a defense that was ranked higher than Auburn's in 2010.
This post was edited on 10/16/13 at 6:03 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 6:24 pm to
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That was not my point. Texas Tea said JFF was the greatest ever. I was pointing out that Cam won a N.C. without a great defense. But JFF can't with a defense that was ranked higher than Auburn's in 2010.


I know but 2010 auburn did the things a team needs to do to win games.
1. Run the ball
2.stop the run
3. Win turnover battle.
If a team does 2/3 of theses things they win 80% of the time.
If they do all three it jumps to 93% of the time.
While auburn's pass defense wasn't great their run defense was the best in the sec and had the best TO margin. Had A&M had those last year , they would've been undefeated.


DO YOU SEE WHAT YOUVE DONE. you've made me defend aggies. Now I have to bathe in bleach.
This post was edited on 10/16/13 at 6:27 pm
Posted by Texas Tea
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 6:38 pm to
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DO YOU SEE WHAT YOUVE DONE. you've made me defend aggies. Now I have to bathe in bleach.




Posted by Fmedic08
DFW
Member since Jan 2013
467 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 6:42 pm to
Let's be honest. It will hard for us to finish higher than 3rd in the west as long as saban and miles are around. We will never have better recruit classes than them. We will have to play exceptionally to win those games. Not saying it can't happen but we will be the underdog every season most likely.
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 7:02 pm to
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DO YOU SEE WHAT YOUVE DONE. you've made me defend aggies. Now I have to bathe in bleach.



Try drinking some of it.
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