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re: For all of you over the age of 35

Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:35 am to
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:35 am to
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i have plenty non caucasian friends (black, asian, hispanic- etc), but none of them use the word- or not around me anyway. of course, i'm not in my 20's either.



none of my black friends call me nig*a either. But they say it to each other often. I'm 27.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:36 am to
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A word can not be racist. It's intent is what determines that.

You're simply wrong.

It's how it is received - regardless of the intent.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36895 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:37 am to
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It should be up to Cal and the University as to what they want to do and honestly, it shouldn't be much for a kid who has a clean slate outside of this slip up.


Calipari could have at least pretended what Harrison said was inappropriate instead of just shrugging his shoulders like nothing to see here.

Anyone wanting him expelled is crazy. Unfortunately a white female at South Carolina has been suspended for writing "N" on a board in expressing her frustration over Wi-Fi.

Its hard to believe what Harrison said was so innocent while this lady at S Carolina may face expulsion. Now that's hypocrisy.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72116 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:37 am to
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I work in an industry where people don't use that word, and would be highly offended is some punk said "what's up my nigg*". Our society has come a long way in 30 years, and it's piss ant punks who use that word, in any context.



I'm not saying it should be an accepted term to be used all of the time. Idk how you've gathered that from anything I've posted. All I've said is that it's not a racist slur when used in the manner that Harrison did.

And Kaminsky isn't even black. I mean, only on a board full of southerners are we going to debate if this is racist or not. Most in this thread just want it to be. Sorry, but it's not.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37310 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:37 am to
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And the word isn't exclusively used as something positive. If you want a comparable "white" term, I guess you can say it's literally the same as "man"


now explained like that- it actually makes sense to me.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
107182 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:38 am to
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yall are so hell bent on this and it's hilarious.


It reminded me of the middle school (12-14 year old) boys I work with. White, black, Asian, Hispanic, all say shite like "sup my n****" all the time. They don't even think twice about the history of the word or even the connotation of it. But I'd have courtside Rupp seats if I collected money everytime I corrected a kid on it.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45959 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:38 am to
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I don't know, how many?
a lot. We must have a lot of sexists on this site

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Regardless of your answer, it doesn't matter if you don't intend insult, the word can still be insulting. I'm sorry you don't understand this, but it seems like now would be a good time for you to learn it.
Kevin Hart calling his black friend his n***a in a stand up routine isn't racist, sorry. Andrew Harrison saying "that n***a can't miss" about a fellow teammate who's hot behind the arch isn't racist, sorry. I'm sorry you guys are out of touch with the meaning of context and how that word is used in society today.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72116 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:39 am to
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It's how it is received - regardless of the intent.



So you agree that this wasn't a racial slur then, right?

Because Kaminsky is not black and is clearly not mortified by this.

Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
107182 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:40 am to
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Calipari could have at least pretended what Harrison said was inappropriate instead of just shrugging his shoulders like nothing to see here.


He didn't. He turned it over to the University to review instead of double dipping on punishment for Harrison.

And you honestly think he didn't have a conversation with him just because he didn't broadcast it? Your unending bias is showing right now more than your common sense.

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Its hard to believe what Harrison said was so innocent while this lady at S Carolina may face expulsion. Now that's hypocrisy.


That's not my problem. I could give a shite what some girl at South Carolina said. But I don't see where UK not going full retard over this is hypocrisy. If anything it's not letting the PC crowd dictate them.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 10:43 am
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36895 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:40 am to
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I'm sorry you guys are out of touch with the meaning of context and how that word is used in society today.


This attitude is insane.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72116 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:41 am to
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Regardless of your answer, it doesn't matter if you don't intend insult, the word can still be insulting. I'm sorry you don't understand this, but it seems like now would be a good time for you to learn it.



You're cut and dry example is way off base. A word in itself can not be racist. How it was meant to be interpreted and yes, how it is accepted by the person who it was said to is what determines that. In both cases, this checks out as non-racist.

Should he have said it? No

Should he get in trouble for saying it on live TV? Yes

Was it racist? Absolutely not.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:42 am to
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Have you ever seen a black comedy? A black stand-up comedian? The context in which that word is used determines everything about the intent of the speaker of it

You do realize some n*****s are still offended by the racist nature of the word, even in that context, don't you?



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i see why the title of this thread is what it is

Let me put it to you like this:

When you finally grow up to be a man and some shite-assed kid comes up to you trying to tell you how the world is, are you going to say to him, "Wow, you kids sure know more than grown people" or are you going to laugh at the presumptuousness of the kid?

Here' a clue:

Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36895 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:42 am to
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He didn't. He turned it over to the University to review instead of
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double dipping
on punishment for Harrison.


What punishment? It was announced yesterday that that molder of young men Calipari and the enlightened folks at My Old Kentucky Home announced there will be no punishment for this fine young man.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45959 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:42 am to
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It's how it is received - regardless of the intent.
i'd love to hear how Kaminsky feels about it. He probably understands the context of it and realizes that there was no racist intent behind it.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72116 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:43 am to
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This attitude is insane.



No, it's reasonable. People are too fricking sensitive about everything.

Look, black people can say it to each other. Whites can't because our people enslaved them and coined the term. Black people using it in a non-derogatory manner is their attempt to desensitize it.

The sooner this is realized, the sooner we can all worry about more important things.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
107182 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:43 am to
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What punishment? It was announced yesterday that that molder of young men Calipari and the enlightened folks at My Old Kentucky Home announced there will be no punishment for this fine young man.


Announced HE wasn't punishing him. He turned it over to UK officials to review.

Why do you feel he needs to be punished if you apparently think the girl in South Carolina shouldn't?
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32135 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:44 am to
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Look, black people can say it to each other. Whites can't because our people enslaved them and coined the term.


my family migrated here after the civil war so my people didn't enslave them. so i'm good to use it in any way i see fit correct?
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45959 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:44 am to
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This attitude is insane.

Harrison saying what he said isn't any more racist than him saying, "that n***a Kaminsky balled out tonight". Had the latter been said, nobody would be talking about this.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36895 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:45 am to
what the young lady at S Carolina was wrong. But suspension is way over the top. Kentucky did nothing to Harrison.
Posted by mikrit54
Robeline
Member since Oct 2013
8664 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:45 am to
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WildTchoupitoulas


fricking BOOM!

Well played.
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