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re: ESPN's best college football teams of the decade (by conference)

Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:47 am to
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:47 am to
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I love how this gets avoided. Going undefeated isn't everything.



thank you.

he hasn't posted shite since I called him out on that.
Posted by superman
Member since Mar 2008
8079 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:50 am to
Except we beat this year's Florida team, who was the same team minus Harvin by about 3TDs. Harvin wouldn't have saved them from that arse whooping and you know it.
Posted by BufordPuser
McNairy County, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
1297 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:52 am to
As an LSU fan I agree with the USCe fan that going undefeated is overrated. LOL. (sarcasm)


It is incredibly difficult to go undefeated and I don't see how you could possible rank teams that have a loss higher than those that don't.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
102156 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:53 am to
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As an LSU fan I agree with the USCe fan that going undefeated is overrated. LOL. (sarcasm) It is incredibly difficult to go undefeated and I don't see how you could possible rank teams that have a loss higher than those that don't.

When did I say it was overrated? I said it wasn't everything. There's a lot more variables. SOS, point margins, etc. Please learn to read.
Posted by attheua
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2008
5442 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:55 am to
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I would say going 14-0 and beating 10 bowl teams, as well as defeating the past three national champions in the process would warrant being at the top.


Don't forget we had the Heisman winner and 6 AP All Americans, which has never been matched in the history of the SEC (or country for that matter.) Alabama's 09 team was the most talented and decorated of the decade. No team was able to exploit a weakness and beat us, which is something only matched by AU 2004.

IMO its 2009 Bama and 2004 AU at the top of the list.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
102156 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:56 am to
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2004 AU

Posted by attheua
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2008
5442 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:57 am to
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just trust us, 03 LSU would win.


They couldn't beat a 5 loss Florida team, but they are going to beat one of the most decorated Alabama teams of all time?
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:58 am to
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They couldn't beat a 5 loss Florida team, but they are going to beat one of the most decorated Alabama teams of all time


exactly. i knew you'd come around.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 12:59 am to
Against SEC competition, '08 Florida scored 44.9 PPG while allowing only 12.5 PPG. That's an average margin of 32.4 PPG. This year, Florida scored 27.6 PPG in SEC games while allowing 12.0 PPG. The average margin was 15.6 PPG. This year's Florida team wasn't even close to last year's team and you know it.
Posted by BufordPuser
McNairy County, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
1297 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 1:01 am to
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They couldn't beat a 5 loss Florida team, but they are going to beat one of the most decorated Alabama teams of all time?




LSU 03 was definitely good enough to beat Bama 09, but on a best of the decade list it is baffling how anyone but a homer could pick any team other than Bama 09. They did things that had never been done before and to say it was because the SEC or all of college football was down is just sad.

Posted by BamaFan89
T-Town
Member since Dec 2009
19303 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 1:05 am to
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on a best of the decade list it is baffling how anyone but a homer could pick any team other than Bama 09. They did things that had never been done before and to say it was because the SEC or all of college football was down is just sad.


Good post
Posted by Barry Badrinath
MISS'IPPI
Member since Mar 2008
6294 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 1:11 am to
I have one change to make to the list even though i agree with most of it.

No offense to the AU fans, but I think our '03 team was better than their '04 team.

LSU's 04 team, you know the one that lost 4 games, went toe to toe with AU at Jordan-Hare, and could have won that game. We had Marcus Randall/jamarcus experiment that year.

The AU '04 team was awesome though.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
70186 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 1:23 am to
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When did I say it was overrated? I said it wasn't everything. There's a lot more variables. SOS, point margins, etc. Please learn to read.


Alabama had the second toughest schedule in the nation, defeated two teams that finished in the Top 3 by double digits, had six 1st team All-Americans, and a Heisman Trophy winner. Not to mention the fact that we defeated 10 bowl teams while doing all of that. I think a legitimate case can be made for '09 Alabama being the best SEC team of the decade.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 2:23 am to
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Alabama had the second toughest schedule in the nation, defeated two teams that finished in the Top 3 by double digits, had six 1st team All-Americans, and a Heisman Trophy winner. Not to mention the fact that we defeated 10 bowl teams while doing all of that. I think a legitimate case can be made for '09 Alabama being the best SEC team of the decade.


Are you including the SECCG and the BCSCG in your #2 SOS? I'm pretty sure that any team that played in both of those games would get a gigantic bump in the SOS. Because.. regular season.. you played Virginia Tech and LSU (in a second consecutive down year). That's it. Hardly dominant until the SECCG and with a piss-easy regular season schedule.

If LSU played that schedule.. 11-1 or 10-2 at absolute worse. And that's this years team.
This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 2:24 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
70186 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 2:55 am to
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Are you including the SECCG and the BCSCG in your #2 SOS?


Yes, I am. Without those two games, if I remember correctly, Alabama still had the 4th or 5th toughest schedule. I remember this because throughout the regular season, Alabama's SOS was WELL above that of Florida, Texas, and Boise. When we pointed this out, you had fans on here shrugging it off and saying that it didn't remember.

quote:

(in a second consecutive down year)


A down year? I wouldn't call sending 10 SEC teams to bowl games (a lot of them pretty good bowl games) a down year. I can't remember the last time the SEC ever sent that many into the post-season. And just because you only have two dominant teams doesn't make it a down year in the SEC. If I remember correctly, there were only two dominant teams by the end of the 2007 season: Georgia and LSU.



This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 3:09 am
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7721 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 5:36 am to
One national title, and you think you should be listed as a team of the decade?... ..and you wonder why people laugh at the fans of gump nation...
Posted by whodemlsu
South of I-10, North of the Gulf
Member since May 2008
531 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 6:39 am to
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You can't give me a single reason why Bama shouldn't be #1 on that list.


How about the SEC was down this year?

SEC Bowl win% last 4 yrs:

2006 67%
2007 78%
2008 75%
2009 60%
This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 7:02 am
Posted by whodemlsu
South of I-10, North of the Gulf
Member since May 2008
531 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 7:06 am to
FYI- the 2003 Oklahoma team had 7 All Americans and the Heisman Trophy winner......
Posted by NOLATide
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2007
2577 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 7:16 am to
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FYI- the 2003 Oklahoma team had 7 All Americans and the Heisman Trophy winner......
FYI - no they didn't. Unless you are counting more than first team selections, and from a selecting organization other than the AP. But guess what? In 2009 Alabama soph. safety Mark Barron made the third-team, giving the Tide 6 FIRST TEAM players selected, and seven players who received AP All-America honors.
This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 7:26 am
Posted by NOLATide
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2007
2577 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 7:19 am to
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You can't give me a single reason why Bama shouldn't be #1 on that list.
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How about the SEC was down this year?

SEC Bowl win% last 4 yrs:

2006 67%
2007 78%
2008 75%
2009 60%


11 First Team All-Americans from the SEC (more than any other conference), a Heisman winner, the #1 and #2 Teams in the country, a coach of the year, a national title third year in a row, and 10 qualified bowl teams. You cracked the case Sherlock, the SEC was just awful in 2009.
This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 7:20 am
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