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re: ESPN: Butch Jones is starting to own National Signing Day
Posted on 2/9/15 at 1:57 pm to TheJones
Posted on 2/9/15 at 1:57 pm to TheJones
So now we are only talking about 25% (2 of 8 years) of his time spent as a head coach? He gets judged this year. Year 1 was about what people expected (I would say subpar) and Year 2 was better than expected. His recruiting and everything else has far exceeeed expectations thus far.
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 1:58 pm to Serraneaux
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Hey guise. can you tell me how many titles Bama shares with another team. If Butch can't claim shared titles in which his team was recognized as a champion, neither can Bama :(
9 AP Titles
19 unanimous SEC Titles
Yea, sure, I can live with that
Posted on 2/9/15 at 1:59 pm to Serraneaux
Bama now has one less title to claim per the Bama posters ITT:
1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!
1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!
Posted on 2/9/15 at 1:59 pm to Serraneaux
1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!
Posted on 2/9/15 at 2:00 pm to Serraneaux
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Bama now has one less title to claim per the Bama posters ITT:
1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!
Like I said, I'm totally content with the 9 AP titles
Have said that numerous times
Posted on 2/9/15 at 2:00 pm to SummerOfGeorge
1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!
Posted on 2/9/15 at 2:00 pm to Serraneaux
1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!
Posted on 2/9/15 at 2:00 pm to LSUNV
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Tell that to USC and Miami
So Cal and Miami got his before the NCAA died and were absorbing the last of the NCAA resources during the demise.
Tell Penn St or UNC that the NCAA exists.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 2:01 pm to Serraneaux
1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 2:01 pm to Serraneaux
1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 2:01 pm to Phat Phil
Looks like you guys have done to Butch Jones what the national media did to Hilary Clinton or Obama - awarded them the greatest of all time without ever accomplishing anything.
It'll be comical when October rolls around next year.
It'll be comical when October rolls around next year.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 2:01 pm to Serraneaux
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So now we are only talking about 25% (2 of 8 years) of his time spent as a head coach? He gets judged this year. Year 1 was about what people expected (I would say subpar) and Year 2 was better than expected. His recruiting and everything else has far exceeeed expectations thus far.
Look, I totally agree that he's a recruiting machine. I won't even argue over whether he's owning NSD or not because it's too close to argue. He's bringing top talent to Knoxville and that deserves applause. But yes, what he's doing in Knoxville is what counts. And so far, all that he has done is recruit well.
So we'll see. I agree with you - next season is big. The record this year is secondary to the quality wins. If I'm a Tennessee fan, I accept another 7-5 season with a big win over UGA, Bama, or Oklahoma. That's a better marker of improvement IMO.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 2:02 pm to Serraneaux
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1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.
Must have missed who we shared that one with, since that is the point of your little rant. Go ahead and let me know. Thanks.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 2:02 pm to stat19
1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 2:02 pm to Serraneaux
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1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.
Now you are just acting dumb
Posted on 2/9/15 at 2:02 pm to SummerOfGeorge
1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 2:04 pm to Serraneaux
Tennessee claims the following
1938 - non-AP
1940 - Dunkel, Williamson
1967 - Litkenhous (lost 2 games)
But please, continue
1938 - non-AP
1940 - Dunkel, Williamson
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Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system.
1967 - Litkenhous (lost 2 games)
But please, continue
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 2/9/15 at 2:05 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Nothing wrong with sharing except when Butch Jones does it :)
Posted on 2/9/15 at 2:06 pm to Serraneaux
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Nothing wrong with sharing except when Butch Jones does it :)
He shared the conference title with literally half his conference. Half.
That's basically what my 4 year old's t-ball league does.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 2:06 pm to Serraneaux
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Serraneaux
Congratulations on being some ones marionette.
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