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re: ESPN: Alabama and Clemson most likely teams in 2021 playoffs

Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:15 am to
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:15 am to
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never thought I’d say this, but I miss the BCS shenanigans.


I'd rather see the days of 20 Bowls and letting the AP sort it out.
Posted by ColdTurkey
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:15 am to
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We you want the best to play you get the best to play


Sig worthy
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:21 am to
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I never thought I’d say this, but I miss the BCS shenanigans.




How anyone ever thought that a 4 team playoff was going to do anything but help BAMA, Clemson, OSU is beyond me.

When the 8 team playoff finally gets here it's going to again make sure that even if one of the usual suspects loses an unusually tough game, gets upset, has early injuries, is just fighting through a tough season, they will still be getting in.

And no one saw this coming?
Posted by SmokeTide
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:28 am to
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If Clem, Bama, Ohio & OU make the playoffs I will probably stop caring about the playoffs entirely




May I asked why? Not trying to play stupid here.

Without knowingly thinking about it some of these arguments border on bringing Socialism to college football.

Since 2000

NFL has had 2 more different champions 12 than College Football at 10.

NBA has had even less during that period.
Posted by Rhino5
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:32 am to
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Alabama and Clemson most likely teams in 2021 playoffs

The monopoly of college football continues. So boring.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:33 am to
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NFL has had 2 more different champions 12 than College Football at 10.


The NFL also has 32 teams compared to college football's 100+. That's almost 40% of all teams that play professional football that has won at least one Super Bowl since the year 2000. Compare that to college football and the less than 8% of teams that have won national championships since the year 2000.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:35 am to
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The monopoly of college football continues. So boring.




Did you think another "Big Dance" was going to break out?
Posted by Rhino5
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:38 am to
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Did you think another "Big Dance" was going to break out?

Don’t you have a BLM rally to attend?

Fact is, it’ll be the same teams of Clemson, Alabama, and OSU, with one other outsider team making it in. There’s basically one spot in the playoffs for the flash in a pan team.
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:39 am to
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The coveted quadruple negative
just quoting the NPC file.....can't help what others say, here....right?
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:40 am to
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Fact is, it’ll be the same teams of Clemson, Alabama, and OSU, with one other outsider team making it in. There’s basically one spot in the playoffs for the flash in a pan team.



If it is it will only be after everyone has taken their best shot at them. The regular season matters. Beat them, dummy.
Posted by Rhino5
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:42 am to
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Beat them, dummy.


That’s difficult to do when they’re allowed to “recruit” all the best players so darn good.
Posted by OrangeEmpire
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:43 am to
Did someone say BCS.................

Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:43 am to
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That’s difficult to do when they’re allowed to “recruit” all the best players so darn good.




Then explain Georgia?

Talent doesn't always tell the tale. Did Gus get fired because he wasn't Alabama good or because he wasn't 2010 Auburn good? Or even 2013 Auburn good? The barners have been to the playoffs twice in the last decade as a top 2 team, not top 4, top 2. Gus obviously had the TALENT, he couldn't put the same product on the field every year. Should he be blamed? Auburn must think so, they just paid him 21 million to go away.

The Barn's playoff dilemma since 2013, talent or coaching?
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 10:22 am
Posted by SmokeTide
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:45 am to
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The NFL also has 32 teams compared to college football's 100+. That's almost 40% of all teams that play professional football that has won at least one Super Bowl since the year 2000. Compare that to college football and the less than 8% of teams that have won national championships since the year 2000.


Great post, but may I also offer a counter offer...of those +100 teams how many put themselves in position to compete for a national championship.

Small sample size...but look at SEC excluding Texas A&M and Missouri...who else has won a SEC championship since the game was established?

ACC it's been basically Florida State and Clemson.

B10 Is tOSU and odd champion here and there.

Big 12 Oklahoma and the rest with Texas being elite during the Mack years.

Just saying all the teams have things in common.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 9:52 am to
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Great post, but may I also offer a counter offer...of those +100 teams how many put themselves in position to compete for a national championship.


I think the question you need to ask yourself is how many of those 100+ teams can afford to put themselves in such a position? In order to consistently compete for championships in college football, you need money. In order to have money, you need to be involved in a P5 conference (unless you are Notre Dame) with those sweet TV package deals. That automatically eliminates half of the FBS. The G5 are always fighting an uphill battle because they lack the revenue and exposure to compete with the P5 - even if they wanted to do so.

Schools like Central Florida who desire to be a college football power will never be able to consistently compete at the same level as Florida or Florida State because they aren't sharing in the fruits of multi-billion dollar TV deals. Until they get invited to join a P5 conference they are always going to be jockeying for table scraps.
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 9:52 am
Posted by SmokeTide
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:04 am to
But that goes back to my original post in a roundabout way...Maybe 30-40 teams can maybe put it together to win a natty? That's roughly the same as the other leagues. So you're saying South Alabama should be given resources and put on the level as Alabama and Auburn?

Yes Central Florida can be used as an modest example but I can counter that both TCU and Utah have moved up to P5s in the last 20 years. Both were willing to play P5s without a return home games.

Central Florida wanted home and home after a few good seasons.

Cincinnati and Houston will be in power 5s in next 10 years but have they invested all sports.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:12 am to
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Maybe 30-40 teams can maybe put it together to win a natty? That's roughly the same as the other leagues.


But you are also ignoring the fact that there are 30-40 teams TOTAL in the other leagues. And while there are 30-40 teams who are trying to put together a team to win a national championship presently, there are perhaps 10-15 teams capable of doing just that in a given year. It all comes down to recruiting. Clay Travis has done the research on this. Going back to 1996, in order to win a national championship, you need to have at least two Top 10 recruiting classes on your roster. The only exception to this rule was 2000 Oklahoma.

At present, the following schools have at least two Top 10 classes on their 85-man roster:

1. Alabama (four Top 10 classes)
2. Georgia (four Top 10 classes)
3. Clemson (four Top 10 classes)
4. Ohio State (three Top 10 classes)
5. LSU (three Top 10 clases)
6. Texas (three Top 10 classes)
7. Texas A&M (three Top 10 classes)
8. Oklahoma (two Top 10 classes)
9. Michigan (two Top 10 classes)
10. USC (two Top 10 classes)
11. Notre Dame (two Top 10 classes)
12. Florida (two Top 10 classes)
13. Oregon (two Top 10 classes)

It can be said with almost a 100% degree of certainty that your national champion will be from among this group of 13 schools. So of the 130 teams in the FBS, only 10% of them have a shot; and of the 64 teams in the P5, only 20% of them have a shot. No school from the G5 has a chance at winning a national championship in 2021.

This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 10:16 am
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:20 am to
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The monopoly of college football continues. So boring.



If you don't like it you could always ask your favorite team to get better.
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:20 am to
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That’s what you idiots said before 2019.


That means they were right 90% of the time, and you were right only 10% of the time over the past 10 games.

You sure on who's the idiot?
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:25 am to
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We you want the best to play you get the best to play


Ted, are you having a stroke?

Do we need to call a doctor?
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