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re: Dumber decision?
Posted on 12/15/08 at 1:31 pm to DvlsAdvocat
Posted on 12/15/08 at 1:31 pm to DvlsAdvocat
Say what you guys want, I knew Saban longer, his teams will make mistakes during critical times during the game. At least with Miles they spread it out throughout the whole game.
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 1:46 pm to DvlsAdvocat
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I can understand how LSU fans think trophies and trophy cases were invented in the last decade, but in fact they've been around much, MUCH longer...
You must enjoy basking in the success of your program before you were ever born
Posted on 12/15/08 at 1:46 pm to thunderbird1100
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Yes, he was hurt so bad he kicked the ball off and kicked a FG just moments before this fake FG was called. Not to mention came right back out the next time Bama kicked and did the kickoff and the extra point (and the rest of the kicking duties from that point on). Let's try and be a little less naive here
Posted on 12/15/08 at 1:47 pm to cajunbama
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Congratulations on another imaginative way of claiming a moral victory
There was no moral victory. You beat us. I'm stating what happened down the trenches. But hey, if you want to make up side-tracks for why it happened, feel free to continue.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 1:50 pm to DevilDogTiger
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Yes, he was hurt so bad he kicked the ball off and kicked a FG just moments before this fake FG was called. Not to mention came right back out the next time Bama kicked and did the kickoff and the extra point (and the rest of the kicking duties from that point on). Let's try and be a little less naive here
naive? he was hurt, why is that so hard to understand? Players dont get hurt (he made the tackle on a kickoff) and miss plays and then return to the game? This board looks more like the rant everyday
Posted on 12/15/08 at 1:51 pm to LuckyLee
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Still butthurt over Saban I see. He's not coming back. FEAR DA HAT.
that's funny. some LSU fans just won't let it go.Posted on 12/15/08 at 1:52 pm to bamaatlsu
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naive? he was hurt, why is that so hard to understand? Players dont get hurt (he made the tackle on a kickoff) and miss plays and then return to the game?
Yes, once again, he was hurt so bad he came right back out to kick the next time Bama needed to kick. On top of that, they felt like he couldn't just kick a FG even with a supposed mild concussion?
Seriously, don't buy into Saban's excuses for making bad calls.
This post was edited on 12/15/08 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 12/15/08 at 1:56 pm to thunderbird1100
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Yes, once again, he was hurt so bad he came right back out to kick the next time Bama needed to kick
did u read my post?
Players do come back into the game after missing a few plays. Did you not hear tracy wolfson say he was hurt on the sideline? We didnt have to kickoff again until the 2nd half. By that time he had recovered. You people are reachingPosted on 12/15/08 at 1:57 pm to bamaatlsu
Once again, he couldn't just kick a FG with supposed "mild" concussion?
Even IF he honestly couldn't kick a freaking FG and Saban sent out the backup kicker who had kicked 1 FG and 1 XP all year (And missed both)...that's an incredibly dumb decision...on top of the already incredibly dumb decision to even give the holder the option to call a fake on 4th/long from the 40 yard line in a tight game.
You guys buy into Saban's excuses way too much.
Even IF he honestly couldn't kick a freaking FG and Saban sent out the backup kicker who had kicked 1 FG and 1 XP all year (And missed both)...that's an incredibly dumb decision...on top of the already incredibly dumb decision to even give the holder the option to call a fake on 4th/long from the 40 yard line in a tight game.
You guys buy into Saban's excuses way too much.
This post was edited on 12/15/08 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 12/15/08 at 1:58 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:Excuses? As Dvls pointed out earlier, it was a read play installed for this game. The holder thought he saw something in the UF defense, so he checked into the fake. And that is exactly how Saban explained it, not sure what excuses you guys heard. Its fine to hate Saban, but dont make shite up
Saban's excuses for making bad calls
Posted on 12/15/08 at 2:00 pm to thunderbird1100
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Once again, he couldn't just kick a FG with supposed "mild" concussion
actually, no, they won't let you back onto the field until you've been cleared medically. You're a much more intelligent poster than this, thunderbird
Posted on 12/15/08 at 2:00 pm to bamaatlsu
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Excuses? As Dvls pointed out earlier, it was a read play installed for this game. The holder thought he saw something in the UF defense, so he checked into the fake. And that is exactly how Saban explained it, not sure what excuses you guys heard. Its fine to hate Saban, but dont make shite up
Once again, an excuse for making a terrible call. Why would you even give your holder a chance to call a fake on his own when it's 4th/long from the 40 yard line? Dumb, dumb, dumb.
On top of that, you KNOW you're playing a team that's very good on special teams.
The best call there would of been to either punt or send your offense onto the field. EASILY the better choice than what Saban called.
This post was edited on 12/15/08 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 12/15/08 at 2:05 pm to thunderbird1100
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Once again, an excuse for making a terrible call. Why would you even give your holder a chance to call a fake on his own when it's 4th/long from the 40 yard line? Dumb, dumb, dumb.
On top of that, you KNOW you're playing a team that's very good on special teams.
The best call there would of been to either punt or send your offense onto the field. EASILY the better choice than what Saban called.
Give it up.
They are being loyal Sabanistas. Marching lock step in what their master wants them to do.Posted on 12/15/08 at 2:10 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:I actually applaud Saban for giving the holder this kind of responsibility. Wish it would have been executed a little better, but oh well. And that kicker can make FGs from that distance, so I dont think it was that dumb to go for 3 (but it can admittedly be argued).
Why would you even give your holder a chance to call a fake on his own when it's 4th/long from the 40 yard line?
quote:again, i cant argue this. I'm not sure what I would have done in that same situation.
The best call there would of been to either punt or send your offense onto the field.
to punt, go for it, or kick FG situation can definitely be argued. But not the legitimacy of the injury (which is what brought me into this thread) and I didnt hear Saban make any excuses. He said we read it wrong, plain and simple.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 2:12 pm to thunderbird1100
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Once again, an excuse for making a terrible call. Why would you even give your holder a chance to call a fake on his own when it's 4th/long from the 40 yard line? Dumb, dumb, dumb.
On top of that, you KNOW you're playing a team that's very good on special teams.
The best call there would of been to either punt or send your offense onto the field. EASILY the better choice than what Saban called.
It was a dumb call. I think bringing out the offense would have been equally dumb.
Punt and pin 'em deep.
That being said Florida won the game and was a better team. The coaching helped us more than that one play hurt us.
12-1 isn't perfect but it's not Shreveport.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 2:12 pm to I-59 Tiger
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I-59 Tiger
and you're still letting those gumptards up there blind you and rid you of all your objectivity
Posted on 12/15/08 at 2:15 pm to I-59 Tiger
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Sabanistas.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 2:15 pm to I-59 Tiger
Tiffin was hurt so Corey Smith had to be out there. However, after seeing how UF was lined up, Saban should have called a timeout to abort the fake and instead they should have pooched the ball. I don't think that call should have been on Fitzgerald's shoulders so in that, Saban did make a mistake.
Having said that, the fake FG did not cost us the game. Javier catching a kick inside the 5 hurt (he should have let it go out of bounds so that costs us 35 yards) and the two 15 yard penalties hurt bad because of when they happened.
Having said that, the fake FG did not cost us the game. Javier catching a kick inside the 5 hurt (he should have let it go out of bounds so that costs us 35 yards) and the two 15 yard penalties hurt bad because of when they happened.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 2:15 pm to bamaatlsu
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I actually applaud Saban for giving the holder this kind of responsibility.
This just proves you're being a sheep. Why would ANY sane coach give their HOLDER (who is a PUNTER) that kind of responsibility in a Championship game on 4th/long from the 40 yard line in a tight game? That's nothing but a terribly stupid decision, nothing more to it.
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Wish it would have been executed a little better, but oh well.
He could of executed it to perfection and still got stuffed. Florida made the right "safe" call moments before the snap. It was clear as day. They saw the fake and called safe.
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And that kicker can make FGs from that distance, so I dont think it was that dumb to go for 3 (but it can admittedly be argued).
Admittedly? He was 0/1 on the year in Extra Points and 0/1 on the year on his 1 FG (from 30 something yards). Yet, it's a good idea to trust a guy who's never made a FG or XP with the responsibility of possibly kicking a 50 yard FG in a tight Championship game? Admittedly, logically, anywayaly....dumb.
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I'm not sure what I would have done in that same situation.
Seriously? Not any good coaching move is doing what was called.
Posted on 12/15/08 at 2:16 pm to bamaatlsu
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and you're still letting those gumptards up there blind you and rid you of all your objectivity
How am I not objective ? I think that play was a bad call.Doesn't matter how it "was executed" it was a poor call.
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